Superboy Prime vs The Avengers

Started by bluewaterrider66 pages

I'm seriously wondering if Geoff Johns didn't take some of his inspiration for Prime's specific character limitations (i.e. a strange sort of slowness), from his original appearances ...

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Originally posted by bluewaterrider
mhmm

And that means what exactly? Might as well post warpath turning wwh's head with a right cross and pretend it means something. Prime was hurt and affected by a large variety of attacks. But hurting was one thing, and putting him down was another thing entirely.

Ah, good, you're here.

Damborgson, please clarify why you thought it would be a good idea to have Iron Man and War Machine on a team against Prime.

Also, whether you were thinking of Red Hulk as he was under Loeb or as the jobber he seems to be now in the Phoenix 5 storyline.

Your opening post takes people from odd points in history to make this thread and I'm interested in what you originally had in mind.

He always felt that Prime would win. With that said, this is a bait thread.

@Blue
Yep.

Because I felt like it.

Current Rulk unless specified otherwise.

I had in mind that the characters in the OP take on Prime. Nothing more to it.

Originally posted by carver9
He always felt that Prime would win. With that said, this is a bait thread.
carv dont be such a jerk 😬

Originally posted by iceman24567
carv dont be such an idiot 😬

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Originally posted by Damborgson

I had in mind that the characters in the OP take on Prime. Nothing more to it.

Tony I could see because he's led the Avengers.

Why War Machine?

Originally posted by Damborgson
@Blue
Because I felt like it.

Hmm. I was going to write "Guess I missed my window" after this ellipse post, but I guess I didn't; you were still around.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Now you're just trolling and spamming 😐

You can call it what you want, Ice, but I'm actually presenting the range of force that usefully affects Prime and illustrating what he actually does in fights. The simple fact is, Prime does not fight all that well in most of his comics. People with strategy in mind get the better of him more often than not.

And he certainly doesn't do as well in fights as his highest end feats "predict" he would do.

Originally posted by carver9
[Damborgson] always felt that Prime would win. With that said, this is a bait thread.

Prime's actually the kind of threat the Avengers have historically faced in their books, though.

On that note, I have to say I'm struck with the impression that DC heroes don't fight particularly well. Someone reminded me of that (srissmartian or whatever her name is) when she brought up the Classic X-Men being the most well-coordinated team, owing, she mused, to their continual drilling with one another.

I'm not sure if its that or that Marvel Comics of the 60s through 80s were more logically thought out than their DC counterparts.

Perhaps its even the fact that my read background from that time period consists largely of Spider-man and X-Men, heroes that HAD to fight well together and/or be resourceful singularly to survive.

I think the Avengers take Prime given the roster presented in the original post in this thread, whether Rulk's what he was intended to be or no. Because Prime's limitations in direct conflict are consistent and significant. Because he's proven vulnerable to far less than the physical force Thor and World War Hulk would bring to bear. Because he fights with little or no strategy. Because the Marvel team has the tools to exploit Prime's commonly known weaknesses and the tech to buy time and distraction. And because overcoming foes of Prime class or greater are what the Avengers are famous for doing.

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
(srissmartian or whatever her name is)

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Lol posting the range of force that affects Prime?

The range of force that affects WWH:

I'm actually presenting the range of force that usefully affects WWHulk and illustrating what he actually does in fights. The simple fact is, Hulk does not fight all that well in most of his comics.

As for the scan, I was going to get it and then post it - but I see you already know that its current, in your own words, 'jobber' Rulk.

You do know Hulk didn't fly off during any of those punches right? Just thought you should know that.

Rulk been jobbing for a while now.

Next show Herc dropping him in one strike or Spider Woman giving amped Hulk (Nul) fits

Rulk isn't jobbing anymore though.