Superboy Prime vs The Avengers

Started by Zack Fair66 pages

Originally posted by carver9
Rulk isn't jobbing anymore though.

What changed?

Originally posted by iceman24567
Next show Herc dropping him in one strike or Spider Woman giving amped Hulk (Nul) fits

Herc > Wondergirl and Superboy and Hulk didn't fly off like Prime did. Prime face wasn't ruined when he faced Conner, Hulk didn't have a scratch when Herc punched him (then it was a sneak attack).

Originally posted by Zack Fair
What changed?

He has been beasting.

Rulk is still getting his ass whooped don't know what dream carver is talking about. A subterranean brute skewed him like a pig, Sultan Magus brutally bitched him, amped Things beat the bricks out of him, Namor broke his arm to shit i could go on but meh

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Prime's actually the kind of threat the Avengers have historically faced in their books, though.

On that note, I have to say I'm struck with the impression that DC heroes don't fight particularly well. Someone reminded me of that (srissmartian or whatever her name is) when she brought up the Classic X-Men being the most well-coordinated team, owing, she mused, to their continual drilling with one another.

Its Srankmissingnin, its a he, please at least show some respect and learn about the people you quote. After all, its only common courtesy, wouldn't you say? 🙂 Also, you bring up the point of them drilling together - when you yourself recognise that some characters (War Machine, for example) aren't exactly in teams like this.


I'm not sure if its that or that Marvel Comics of the 60s through 80s were more logically thought out than their DC counterparts.

I think its just you being blinkered, personally.


Perhaps its even the fact that my read background from that time period consists largely of Spider-man and X-Men, heroes that HAD to fight well together and/or be resourceful singularly to survive.

Spiderman, the loner of the Marvel U back in the day? Sure.


I think the Avengers take Prime given the roster presented in the original post in this thread, whether Rulk's what he was intended to be or no. Because Prime's limitations in direct conflict are consistent and significant.

As are everyone else's on this thread, bar perhaps WWHulk.


Because he's proven vulnerable to far less than the physical force Thor and World War Hulk would bring to bear.

And so have the Avengers teams here, again bar perhaps WWHulk.


Because he fights with little or no strategy. Because the Marvel team has the tools to exploit Prime's commonly known weaknesses and the tech to buy time and distraction.

Which is.....Kryptonite (which as a mod ruling has said would not work, as I am SURE you are no doubt aware of, a fine knowledgeable poster such as yourself) and red sun radiation. And we have already shown in battle, when exiled to the Phantom Zone, he can still punch his way out with sheer physical strength. Also, that a mere kiss of sunlight powers him right back up. Energy drainers and radiation masters have tried hitting him with red sun before whilst he's battling - I direct you to your own posts (which I'm sure you're au fait with already, right?)


And because overcoming foes of Prime class or greater are what the Avengers are famous for doing.

And defeating opponents of the calibre of the Avengers presented here is what Prime is famous for doing.

Originally posted by carver9
You do know Hulk didn't fly off during any of those punches right? Just thought you should know that.

Yah, but neither can he fly 😉

Originally posted by carver9
Herc > Wondergirl and Superboy and Hulk didn't fly off like Prime did. Prime face wasn't ruined when he faced Conner, Hulk didn't have a scratch when Herc punched him (then it was a sneak attack).
Not really Superboy is a class 100 with tactile tk that can send BL Ka-L flying. Hulk had blood pouring out of his face iirc when Herc dropped him to a knee this is while Herc was holding back too.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah, but neither can he fly 😉

You are missing the point.

Also, a little gem:

Iron Man holds back when he fights the Hullk:

Originally posted by carver9
You are missing the point.

If a character is capable of flight, punch him hard enough to overcome his 'flying muscles' and he will fly off.

Lowball away.

Only real threat is WWHulk and he isn't that big of a threat to begin with.

The entire team-minus WWHulk can most likely get oneshotted by Prime.

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not really Superboy is a class 100 with tactile tk that can send BL Ka-L flying. Hulk had blood pouring out of his face iirc when Herc dropped him to a knee this is while Herc was holding back too.

Lol..WTF? ALL of this is wrong.

facepalm

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If a character is capable of flight, punch him hard enough to overcome his 'flying muscles' and he will fly off.

Prime wasn't flying when MM punched him away though. People like Conner wasn't punching Hulk away either.

Btw, carver, note we are all giving WWH his props, don't get mad.

He does get BFRed though. Would you agree Prime being stronger than the rest? You must do, otherwise you won't have said Prime stomps twice.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol..WTF? ALL of this is wrong.
Not in the slightest

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Btw, carver, note we are all giving WWH his props, don't get mad.

He does get BFRed though. Would you agree Prime being stronger than the rest? You must do, otherwise you won't have said Prime stomps twice.

Yes, I agree and I don't get mad about this stuff. At the end of the day, this is just our opinions.

Just for you, bluewater, so that you can keep up with plot developments from September 2011, this is page 6 of Hulk 41 (which comes quite a time AFTER Hulk 25 and 26, numerically). Please note Zero/One (the lady in blue)'s statement in the second panel:

Originally posted by iceman24567
Not really Superboy is a class 100 with tactile tk that can send BL Ka-L flying. Hulk had blood pouring out of his face iirc when Herc dropped him to a knee this is while Herc was holding back too.
Yeah a lot of people don't know this or ignore it. A version of him became black zero and he was taking on hundreds of pc sb.

SBP trys to rip Ares in half but, can't and then he gets gang banged. Team ftw.