And I'm pretty sure the thread starter was OK with BFR as a tactic, otherwise he would have said BFR was off...
But this will degenerate into an impasse, I feel. You've said what you've said, I disagree, and I've said what I've said, and you disagree. It's just one of those debates.
Also, I am right and you are wrong 😛
Originally posted by carver9
I can't but Im pretty sire the thread starter made this a team battle and not Hulk just turning around pimp slapping his team mates.If Prime actually decided to bfr his opponents and he did so in comics, I would accept your argument but it isn't consistent for the character, just like it isn't consistent Thor would walk around teleporting his enemies away either.
Actually, with Prime's "leave me alone" and "you're not real heroes" I don't see why the examples you've ignored so far should be ignored at all.
shrug
Because Prime only BFRs weak/dying opponents. Him BFRing Sodam is not applicable, because it didn't BFR him far enough (ignoring of course, the Ion entity and Daxamite flight which would provide some resistance).
If Prime isn't even strong enough to punch Yat (despite us seeing him being much stronger than that before), then he will only be able to punch the Hulk a distance of, say, 1 mile or so. And the Hulk will just jump back.
Hence, BFR will not be used. Prime will allow himself to be beaten up, and he won't fight to the best of his capabilities.
WWH, however, will fight pretty much like WBH, with earthquake causing footsteps etc.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because Prime only BFRs weak/dying opponents. Him BFRing Sodam is not applicable, because it didn't BFR him far enough (ignoring of course, the Ion entity and Daxamite flight which would provide some resistance).If Prime isn't even strong enough to punch Yat (despite us seeing him being much stronger than that before), then he will only be able to punch the Hulk a distance of, say, 1 mile or so. And the Hulk will just jump back.
Hence, BFR will not be used. Prime will allow himself to be beaten up, and he won't fight to the best of his capabilities.
WWH, however, will fight pretty much like WBH, with earthquake causing footsteps etc.
lol.
@Dark..
Sentry didn't just use fist against Hulk either. He surrounded him with energy that was threatening the planet along with blast him in the face...
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/bigbran1/wwh021.jpg
Punching him, etc...all of this was happening simultaneously. Can't see Prime engulfing Hulk in planetary+ energy, blasting him, punching him all at once. Then that didn't even stop Hulk since he transformed when he was pissed again.
@Dark...
This doesn't even include the fact that Hulk was unable to fight effectively because he was busy gripping Sentrys energy to aid in him staying mobile in the air during his battle with Sentry.
Wow. I think I can see your debate style - i.e. obfuscate the original point, then try and sidestep anything you can't answer.
What exactly do you think I'm trying to sidestep?
I don't readily recall anything I've failed to answer that you asked me directly.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It was more the points that I posted, i.e. \1)Thor not being there during WWH (you then sidestepped and said hey, in this fight, he's with WWH),
I simply didn't think this point worth expounding on right then.
Thor IS with World War Hulk for this scenario.
And, as it is, I DON'T agree with your "lucky Thor was not present in WWH storyline", assessment.
Because in the TYPICAL Hulk storyline, Thor does not express his full potential. The action resorts to Thor brawling with Hulk or swinging his hammer around. They both tend to treat their encounter as:
"I will show you that my physical strength is greater than yours.
Not equal. Greater.
That is all that matters to me.
Leave off "strategy" for the OTHER sissies you fight."
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That's their typical fight.
It's like the comicbook equivalent of WWF.
Problem is, generally, though, Hulk's strength is more dynamic than Thor's. So Hulk is, in the final objective analysis, physical stronger than Thor by the time their battle's climax nears. So Thor loses.
But that's when the goal is to "prove" themselves to their counterpart.
Generally, it's quite different when there is another more serious and expedient goal to reach.
Thor actually starts using resources OUTSIDE of innate physical strength and hammer strikes when things get serious, when his mind turns to other things, or when he is at least disinterested in seeing who gets the title belt:
