Superboy Prime vs The Avengers

Originally posted by carver9
Name me a battle where two people use ALL of their abilities. Hell, the fights you are using with Prime, they didn't even use close to half of their powers against him.

Lol, what's Pixie's ability? Apart from flying, does she have any abilities at all?

She doesn't even have to use all of her powers. Just, you know....her main one. The one that she is actually useful for, and which she actually used in the background of the WWH fight. That's the problem, she DIDN'T even forget to use her one power - she WAS using it. But somehow, didn't use it in any effective way.

Its like Superman fighting an enemy, and only using his strength to...actually, I can't think of a single way he could be as useless as Pixie was in that fight....

Originally posted by carver9
And this doesn't apply to 90% of the battles that take place in comics. When did Martian Manhunter use all of his abilities when he faced Doomsday? When did Surfer use all of his abilities when he fought Beta Ray Bill? When did Orion use all of his abilities when he fought Superman. Stop responding to my post lowballer. Let me and Dark handle this.

@ Abhi - he snapped Colossus like a twig, does that count?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@ Abhi - he snapped Colossus like a twig, does that count?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk solos and I come to realize that when powerful people in DC join forces to fight a foe, the ninja law kills them. Despero, Titus, Wonder Woman (while blind), Doctor Poloris, Doctor Light, Prime, Black Adam, Doomsday, and the list goes on has taken it to a DC top team and its sad. Marvel doesn't let crap like that happen, each character gets their deserved respect.

lol, half of the examples you named aren't even valid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Meh, colossus sucks.

Too far.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol, what's Pixie's ability? Apart from flying, does she have any abilities at all?

She doesn't even have to use all of her powers. Just, you know....her main one. The one that she is actually useful for, and which she actually used in the background of the WWH fight. That's the problem, she DIDN'T even forget to use her one power - she WAS using it. But somehow, didn't use it in any effective way.

Its like Superman fighting an enemy, and only using his strength to...actually, I can't think of a single way he could be as useless as Pixie was in that fight....

I agree with you...no battle have people use "all" of their powers in one fight which is why I couldn't understand why you even brought any of what you said up. So overall, I agree with you but this isn't a one way street buddy.

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol, half of the examples you named aren't even valid.

Too far.

Originally posted by -Pr-
lol, half of the examples you named aren't even valid.

Too far.

Inconsistency.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk solos and I come to realize that when powerful people in DC join forces to fight a foe, the ninja law kills them. Despero, Titus, Wonder Woman (while blind), Doctor Poloris, Doctor Light, Prime, Black Adam, Doomsday, and the list goes on has taken it to a DC top team and its sad. Marvel doesn't let crap like that happen, each character gets their deserved respect.

Originally posted by carver9
It wasn't as bad. The General soloed the JLA and he would get worked by WWH. Despero soloed the JLA and JSA and would physically get his leg snapped like a twig against WWH. Team battles in DC isn't trust Worthing or realiable imo. The ninja law kills them.

Originally posted by carver9
And this doesn't apply to 90% of the battles that take place in comics. When did Martian Manhunter use all of his abilities when he faced Doomsday? When did Surfer use all of his abilities when he fought Beta Ray Bill? When did Orion use all of his abilities when he fought Superman. Stop responding to my post lowballer. Let me and Dark handle this.

Going for earning that Carter name with a vengeance? That's what I'm seeing. By the way, the first time J'Onn faced Doomsday, he thought he was Bloodwynd(so probably wasn't aware of many of his abilities) and his Martian Vision proved useless(even with energy projection help from Superman, Guy Gardner, Fire and Booster Gold), second time Brainiac possessed Doomsday, and it was implied that Doomsday had developed an ability to counter J'Onn's phasing(and really, how much help would J'Onn's shape-shifting be?) and their third fight, J'Onn saw his telepathy was useless.

Originally posted by carver9
Name me a battle where two people use ALL of their abilities. Hell, the fights you are using with Prime, they didn't even use close to half of their powers against him.

Ya know I don't even have to go into team battles to bring-up people being stupid when fighting Hulk.

But it's irrelevant, as Superboy Prime is going to kill Hulk to death, then skull-f*ck him so hard he retcons Hulk back to life so he can kill him again. And with how much pent-up frustration he's gotta have from being around two other men, an old lady, and being able to view Wonder Woman and other hotties naked but can't do anything about it, this is gonna retcon Hulk back into puny Banner.

@Delta...

You can't say that people fought Hulk stupidly without looking at both sides of the battles. People didn't even use close to their potential against Prime either. Prime isn't beating WWH minus bfring.

@carver: Nope, never said it was a one way street. Like I said earlier, there is no DC-good/MArvel-bad or vice versa, both companies are equally good/bad at storytelling. Where was the Thunderbolt during WW3, for example? But to say that Marvel is better at depicting fights, and gives their characters to shine....in a thread with WWH in it....is funny.

And back to Pixie, I'm not even asking her to use all of her powers. Just her one power. That she had already used in one of the panels.

But that is a matter for another thread. Here, as you have said previously, SBP wins.

@Dark...

Are you talking about Pixie BFRing abilities?

Yup - well, I don't think she can carry WWH off in her arms....

And BEFORE you bring up Strange's assertion that Hulk always comes back...just stick him in the middle of the Sun.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yup - well, I don't think she can carry WWH off in her arms....

Lol...gotcha. Well, it was explained in WWH why bfring him wasn't a good option.

Do you really believe sticking him in the sun will hold him there forever?

Originally posted by carver9
@Delta...

You can't say that people fight Hulk stupid without looking at both sides of the battles. People didn't even use close to their potential against Prime either. Prime isn't beating WWH minus bfring.

Aren't you doing exactly what you're accusing me of doing? And I didn't see people fight like complete idiots against Prime so much as either in-character or he beat them before they could do anything about it. Firestorm tried Kryptonite and Red Star tried red solar energy, those are the smart things to go for if you're facing an out-of-control Kryptonian(even if the Kryptonite was useless).

And let's see. Hulk did what again in WORLD WAR HULK to make you think that Superboy Prime can't win? Sentry alone proves Hulk loses, as SBP won't be reverting to his normal human form like Hulk and Sentry did at the end of their fight. But of course I think SBP kills Hulk before it gets to that, anyways.

Originally posted by carver9
Do you really believe sticking him in the sun will hold him there forever?

How does he get-out on his own, again?

Haha I KNEW you were gonna say it as soon as I hit the 'Submit Reply' button....

As for the sun, yes. How is he going to get back? Please remember that last time I suggested it, TheHulk was adamant he could jump from the Sun back to Earth....and you were the one arguing against him, saying that no, he wouldn't get back to Earth.

@Delta...

You might need to relook at the Sentry and WWH fight because that was much more than just punching. Also, that Sentry>the ION Prime fought.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Haha I KNEW you were gonna say it as soon as I hit the 'Submit Reply' button....

As for the sun, yes. How is he going to get back? Please remember that last time I suggested it, TheHulk was adamant he could jump from the Sun back to Earth....and you were the one arguing against him, saying that no, he wouldn't get back to Earth.

I never said he would jump out of if but he will get back like he always does.

Originally posted by carver9
Inconsistency.

In your argument, yes.