Classic ION vs Phoenix Force

Started by cdtm9 pages

When did Extant try taking power from Parallax?

Zero Hour itself, or a tie in?

Originally posted by cdtm
When did Extant try taking power from Parallax?

Zero Hour itself, or a tie in?


Zero hour. Parallax took him out in one panel and reminded him who is the boss? Honestly, waverider destroyed a whole timeline to destroy monarch. Its no big deal.

As I learned the PF is the Big Bang, it's Marvels equivalent to Imperiex, who is also the Bitg Bang and holds the power of the Big Bang. ZH Paralax was beyond that and recreated the Multiverse, Timelines and everything on a whim, he had to be stopped by the Spectre who failed to do so. The PF never beat or fought Spectres equivalent in Marvel nor would it be able to imho.

And Kyle as Ion was even beyond Parallax... BTW Kyle containd the BigBang even before he became Ion 😉.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
As I learned the PF is the Big Bang, it's Marvels equivalent to Imperiex, who is also the Bitg Bang and holds the power of the Big Bang. ZH Paralax was beyond that and recreated the Multiverse, Timelines and everything on a whim, he had to be stopped by the Spectre who failed to do so. The PF never beat or fought Spectres equivalent in Marvel nor would it be able to imho.

And Kyle as Ion was even beyond Parallax... BTW Kyle containd the BigBang even before he became Ion 😉.


Phoenix isn't big bang, it was born from that. Yeah, just an Ion amped kyle contained a big bang and he was just tapping the Ion force sub-consciously

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Supermanv2173pg14.jpg

Unlike phoenix who has just statements, imperiex IS the big bang.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
As I learned the PF is the Big Bang, it's Marvels equivalent to Imperiex, who is also the Bitg Bang and holds the power of the Big Bang. ZH Paralax was beyond that and recreated the Multiverse, Timelines and everything on a whim, he had to be stopped by the Spectre who failed to do so. The PF never beat or fought Spectres equivalent in Marvel nor would it be able to imho.

And Kyle as Ion was even beyond Parallax... BTW Kyle containd the BigBang even before he became Ion 😉.


Please , that myth has been disproven in so many threads prior , its not even funny anymore .

Originally posted by abhilegend
Phoenix isn't big bang, it was born from that. Yeah, just an Ion amped kyle contained a big bang and he was just tapping the Ion force sub-consciously

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Supermanv2173pg14.jpg

Unlike phoenix who has just statements, imperiex IS the big bang.


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Originally posted by abhilegend
Phoenix isn't big bang, it was born from that. Yeah, just an Ion amped kyle contained a big bang and he was just tapping the Ion force sub-consciously

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j105/Rewmac/Supermanv2173pg14.jpg

Unlike phoenix who has just statements, imperiex IS the big bang.

How does it feel?

Originally posted by Mindset
How does it feel?

Feel what?

To be right for once.

Abhi is always right, hush yo face.

Rand-yman.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Abhi is always right, hush yo face.

Rand-yman.

You've just gone full Abhi.

Originally posted by Mindset
You've just gone full Abhi.

I know.

Going full Abhi proves this point:

Abhi is always right

Abhi is inside you now. 🙁

Originally posted by TheGodKiller

Please , that myth has been disproven in so many threads prior , its not even funny anymore .


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Wow, after sifting through several threads,
I see I missed some goodies.

I love this place.
I don't have the leisure anymore to enjoy it as much as I used to,
but I have to participate as much as I can when I find the time.

After today, I probably won't touch down again for some months.

^
And Phoenix fever will run rampant in your absence. 😈

^Don't worry , Puff the dragon(w/ the blessing of our Lord Rand) will forever purge the Phoenix from the face of this earth .

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Originally posted by Sundipped
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And Phoenix fever will run rampant in your absence. 😈

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lol@saying the phoenix force is the big bang...delusions

Originally posted by abhilegend
Destroying timelines was something Parallax's lackey Extant could do

Parallax kicked his ass when he tried to seize power easily. Parallax also re-created entire universe and was going to make many more untill spectre stopped him. Ion is parallax+oblivion. Honestly this is spite if all phoenix can do is erasing a timeline.

Again youre not getting it.

Jean Grey with a thought destroyed an entire timeline with a thought and it happened just like that. Ion has never done this, Parallax has never done this, demonstrate another character doing this?

Its not just a case of doing the act. Its how it was done. The comparative ease and speed.

No big song and dance that went on for most of an issue. A single panel, a thought, it was done.

Different power level.

And another point that doesnt seem to be sinking in is that that was just Jean Grey one of the many hosts the PF empowers across the multiverse.

This threads about the Phoenix Force. Ion gets blown away.

Originally posted by cdtm
And breaking time, while impressive, is much less so than building it.

Destroying timelines is something that happens by default.. Doing something with it, without breaking it, is the real demonstration of power..

Not simply breaking time, amputating it like its a physical object thereby warping space/time laws and then disposing of it all within a single panel and with a thought.

Furthermore theres a difference between altering reality through time manipulation and by having the power to directly manipulate the atomic structure of reality to shape it as you desire.

The former is just taking things back to different points in time to when reality more closely matches what you want.

The latter is having power over energy and matter to actually reshape the universe directly, NOT going back or forward to different states in time.