Don't see Thor--even bloodlusted--being able to hang with Prime for long. Beta Ray Bill gave that same Thor a pretty decent run.
Whoever wins this thread comes down to whether or not people think WBH can take Prime down. Given that Prime's going to have plenty of sunlight to draw from, I don't think Hulk drops him.
Originally posted by Digi
Casually exploded a planet just to troll that universe's Batman. Beat Mxy. Killed PC Superman. Wrecked Ion after fighting dozens, including heralds. Is this really supposed to be a fight?
So far I don't see a landslide in opinions.... Really interested to see what peeps think..
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A lack of consensus does not necessarily mean it's close. Prime turns the dials up to 9,000 and wrecks both of them. They wouldn't go down easily or instantly, but inevitably. Prime was, quite literally, shown casually rearranging and destroying planets in his brief time in the spotlight. Hulk had to roid out to arguably his most powerful form ever to even approach that. There's the other feats I mentioned, all arguably above Skyfather. And Thor is no different than the dozens of herald heroes Prime destroyed. He was ripping apart the Corps like ragdolls. He retconned reality with punches. He was an emo version of PC Supes in all his ridiculous, impossible glory.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t569460.html
Also on page 1 near the top, it's Prime getting the vast majority of votes against these two, PLUS others.
Originally posted by Digi
A lack of consensus does not necessarily mean it's close. Prime turns the dials up to 9,000 and wrecks both of them. They wouldn't go down easily or instantly, but inevitably. Prime was, quite literally, shown casually rearranging and destroying planets in his brief time in the spotlight. Hulk had to roid out to arguably his most powerful form ever to even approach that. There's the other feats I mentioned, all arguably above Skyfather. And Thor is no different than the dozens of herald heroes Prime destroyed. He was ripping apart the Corps like ragdolls. He retconned reality with punches. He was an emo version of PC Supes in all his ridiculous, impossible glory.
err what? This a Thor that is ten times stronger than he normally is. Very different from the heroes prime fought. Furthermore ihave u read HOTM because this is not regular Hulk. Hulks feat in that arc was alot alot more than merely destroying a planet...exponentially better infact.
Prime being above skyfather?....You have to be kidding me.
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Originally posted by Digi
A lack of consensus does not necessarily mean it's close. Prime turns the dials up to 9,000 and wrecks them both. There's the other feats I mentioned, all arguably above Skyfather. And Thor is no different than the dozens of herald heroes Prime destroyed. He was ripping apart the Corps like ragdolls. He retconned reality with punches.
Skyfather??!! erm... Prime is a beast I'll give u that, but this Thor and this Hulk is easily very different from the "dozens" of heralds Prime destroyed. Retconn reality punch? He just didn't punch air and retconn reality.. There's context involved there. That's the most overused argument for him in any Prime thread. It doesn't even really have bearing when it comes to battles.
Originally posted by Naija boy
err what? This a Thor that is ten times stronger than he normally is. Very different from the heroes prime fought. Furthermore ihave u read HOTM because this is not regular Hulk. Hulks feat in that arc was alot alot more than merely destroying a planet...exponentially better infact.Prime being above skyfather?....You have to be kidding me.
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Where are you getting 10x? I've seen Thor bloodlusted, it's still the same powerset, just unleashed more fully.
I'll grant that Hulk's a tough out in this incarnation. But I'm not the only one who thinks he gets worked by Prime.
I also didn't say he was above Skyafther, I said some of his feats are arguably above it. Careful distinction.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Skyfather??!! erm... Prime is a beast I'll give u that, but this Thor and this Hulk is easily very different from the "dozens" of heralds Prime destroyed. Retconn reality punch? He just didn't punch air and retconn reality.. There's context involved there. That's the most overused argument for him in any Prime thread. It doesn't even really have bearing when it comes to battles.
Well, ok, I was using that more to draw the comparison with silly PC feats. Everything else I said about Prime stands, and imo I listed 4-5 things that are better than anything this duo has done. You picked out the dubious one, but the others remain.
As for the Skyfather distinction, it's obviously something of a controversial label for him, especially since we're loathe to assign normal heroes and villains anything on that level. But I can't think of a Trans character who could duplicate everything Prime did in IC and related stories. So he's close.
Also, no, Hulk and Thor, regardless of incarnation, aren't demonstrably better than PC Supes, regular Supes, Alan Scott, the combined Corps, Ion, Mxy, Monarch, etc. etc. and they'd actually lose to most of those characters.
Originally posted by Naija boy
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I misread WBH for WWH. My bad. Thor's still the same character. Bloodlusted or not, it doesn't really vault him to an entirely new level. It just makes him slightly more dangerous, but also less prone to using his more exotic powers like creating anti-matter or matter manip. It's arguable that BL Thor is less useful in some fights, though it would be a slight edge here.
Originally posted by Harbinger
At the risk of further sidetracking this thread, I think you can make a damn good argument for King Thor (and Rune King Thor, who's KT's superior) replicating Prime's feats as well as the ease with which he performed them (since we're talking about alternate forms here).
KT is pushing Skyfather, and I've never seen anyone say RKT isn't Skyfather. Most place him above Odin, from what I've read. So he wouldn't really qualify for the "Trans" label. Again, Trans. characters replicating those feats would be tough. Plenty of Trans. characters have been team-busters, but Prime's feats go beyond that.