Well Anakin has all that raw power at his disposal, and yet he couldn't overpower Obi-Wan in a force push contest. That's why I say having more raw power doesn't mean he's using that raw power anywhere near as effectively as a pro like Yoda is.
Kenobi being Force handled doesn't mean that his TK was weak. Luke levitated himself, his X-Wing and Isolder simultaniously like a feather from sky fall.
While other Jedi/Sith including Sidious can't save even themselves from a fall. Yet, in same book Force blast of a nightwitch nearly killed Luke, was meant to kill but he recovered after attunment with surroundings.
Kenobi is a powerful Jedi but could be caught off guard like Luke. However, Anakin's Force defences come quite naturally with anger. Dooku with direct Force push could only stagger him back, don't think that Yoda would do any better. And Yoda doesn't use TK as offencively, Jedi rely mostly on lightsaber.
Perhaps. But I don't think Anakin's 13 years is enough to match Yoda in skill. I'm sure Anakin's a fast learner, and he certainly fully mastered his own form, but Yoda's completely mastered every form.
Again, did Yoda demonstrate that his skill is above Dooku? Dooku who got outskilled by Anakin twice and never by Yoda.
13 years is far more than enough. You seriously underrate characters' ability to learn. I will again point out at self-trained Luke who with rage boost overwhelmed Vader's defences and shortly after RotJ defeated Lumya, which he couldn't defeat years later.
Sidious was a toddler, while Dooku was already apprenticing Qui-Gon and was hyped by entire Order. Plagueis allowed Sidious to weild lightsaber only many years later. And still most of his time Sidious dedicated to politics, not combat. Anakin and Kenobi had far more experience of fighting real opponents.
Yet, everyone will spit at you, if you say that Sidious is less skilled than them.
Also, I would like to see source that says Yoda mastered all Forms. I think it's another wookieepedia bullshit. In all sources I read Yoda was mentioned only as Ataru master.
Like I said I think Dooku just chose to fight defensively against him, since he was fending off Skywalker's attacks one handed from the get go.
True. He started fight offencively but quickly changed his mind. But it has nothing to do with single handed style. Dooku was driving Ventress back with single handed attacks.
Also the fight was much longer than the Dooku vs Yoda Saber fight.
Because of TK, which Yoda doesn't rely on during combat.
And let's not forget Dooku's uber kick to an angry Anakin in ROTS.
While in presence with Kenobi. When I say Opress was driving back both Anakin and Kenobi and when he casually shrugged them off from his shoulders, you said that Anakin was heavily restraining himself. But now you say how Dooku is uber cool by kicking "an angry" Anakin. Make up your mind. -_-
And I'm not convinced Yoda can't kick. People used to think he couldn't get into a Lightsaber fight. In the ROTS comic there's a scene where he kicks the Emporer. I can imagine him doing that with his athleticism and speed.
But pretty much every Jedi/Sith kicks. Or he could just resort to a force push, but I suppose we're ignoring that when talking Sabers only.[/quote]
Pretty much every Jedi/Sith doesn't have legs that are litteraly 4 times shorter, which makes it much slower, not just much weaker. I don't see any usefulness in such kick, it would only endanger him. Moreover, Yoda never got closer to Dooku or Sidious than one meter, which is still too far for a kick.
Well Count Dooku outskilled Ob-Wan and Anakin together at one point in ROTS. So it's a bit strange to think it's not possible for Yoda to outskill Anakin alone.
Nothing strange. It is not Anakin vs Yoda thread, it is Zone Anakin vs Yoda. Anakin that succumb to his rage with no Kenobi around to pretend being calm Jedi. Dooku couldn't do anything to him with saber, couldn't do much with TK and saved situation only with lightning, which Yoda can't use.
Yoda's mastered every form, so there's plenty of different forms for him to try on Anakin.
Oh, not again. It's absurd. Yoda dies, if he uses anything but Ataru. And Forms after I and II don't bring new techniques, only phylosophy with which you execute them. Sword fight is the most simple art as amount of techniques is very small. Moreover, Yoda couldn't use standard techniques, they are not designed for midgets like him. Likewise, you will never see anyone doing what Yoda did.
Ok. But do you really see Anakin landing lethal Kicks on Yoda? With Yoda's size, speed and athleticism? I only see that happening if Yoda starts tiring.
No, I never said that. I implied that they will keep fighting until one gets exhausted, which logically will be Yoda. No one can outskill Yoda because of his agility but neither can Yoda outskill other powerful opponents because of his physical limitations.
True, but he fought Obi-Wan and Anakin one at a time. And they were both novice's in comparison to the Count at that time. So it wouldn't have taken anywhere near as much out of him as when he had to fight ROTS OBi-Wan and Anakin simultaneously.He was given rest time between fights. In his fight against ROTS Anakin he wasn't given any rest at all. Right after he finished Obi-Wan, Anakin was all over him.
No, they weren't novices. There is no indication that he held back. It's just didn't take long time for them to make wrong move.
In any case discussing Dooku's fitness is pointless. He fought Ventress and Opress, spammed lightning, then fought Ventress again and still had enough charge to drive her back and to dominate with TK. Anakin outskilled Dooku twice because he got enraged, not because Dooku was tired. Force reserves are absolutly irrelevant. Jedi can fight much longer without tiring because of Force, not other way around.