AotC Yoda VS RoTS Anakin (Saber duel)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Why do people keep saying Dooku STALEMATED Yoda..

Did you see Yoda kick his ass? If so please point out to me when that happened.

Dooku held his own for a short time at least.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He did no such thing.. He tucked tail and ran away from Yoda. Yoda wasn't trying to kill his former apprentice he was trying to capture him, which means, he was fighting differently than he might had he been bloodlusted.

Poor excuse considering Anakin defeated Dooku without killing him.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
This is not an argument. This is you avoiding an argument by stating "Oh I don't like that completely Canon show created and executive produced by Lucas himself, so I'll just ignore it."

Star Wars was always aimed primarily at 12 year olds. It just so happened that adults loved it as well.

And your argument that it's aimed at kids becomes even more laughable when your using the CW Mini cartoon to prove your main points.

You seemed to have jumped on board with me, subtley, in a very polite way.

I don't really care about that cartoon, but I see you support my view now:

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Did you see Yoda kick his ass? If so please point out to me when that happened.

Dooku held his own for a short time at least.

Poor excuse considering Anakin defeated Dooku without killing him.

That's good. Common sense is always a good thing to exercise.

Welcome aboard.

Where is the common sense in viewing Yoda not being able to defeat Anakin at? I see no such common sense at all in fact.

Let's examine the fights... Dooku vs. Anakin.. The first time they meet... Dooku one shots Anakin constituting a forum win.. Then during the same fight a little later gets his arm chopped off. That is essentially two losses in one fight. The next time they meet.. AGAIN Anakin has help and the movie, script and novel make it clear that Dooku had depleted vital reserves in fighting both of them off. Let me also remind you that Dooku was instructed NOT to kill Anakin.. so that entire start and middle of the fight is null and void of Dooku going for the killing blow on Anakin. Then.. a weakened dooku gets taken out by Anakin... This is somehow more impressive than...

Yoda.. not wanting to kill dooku WITH NO help at the same time making Dooku duck tail and flew? How on earth are you guys saying Anakin looked more impressive in his showings against Dooku.. That couldn't be further from the truth. Yoda was neither one shot.. made to have a stump of arm or have help in fighting dooku draining his reserves.

how about we go further... Kenobi... obviously below Windu or Yoda... was able to beat Anakin and turn him into a pint sized midget when he was done with him. Again another defeat for Anakin.. something Kenobi would never have done against Yoda. I won't even get into how Sids is well above Vader and how Yoda got the best of Sids.. No need to even go there.

Point is, yoda beats anakin, and really it wouldn't be that hard.. espeically if it's all out. In sabers anakin will do well but will be beaten

Originally posted by Rookwood
but I see you support my view now:

No. Because I believe Yoda would have defeated Dooku had the fight continued.

And I don't see this difference between AOTC Yoda and ROTS Yoda that you see.

I agree with the point that pure sabers are the only area Anakin can contend with Yoda (though, I'll give the edge to Yoda)
In the Force--Yoda takes it,
and so Yoda takes all out (against Zone Anakin) 7/10

(Against CW Anakin he takes 10/10 IMHO)

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Where is the common sense in viewing Yoda not being able to defeat Anakin at?

Because strict interpretation of choreography without consideration of other factors (e.g., the script, the novel, circumstance, motivation, etc.) might very well lead one to conclude that Dooku was Yoda's equal in that fight.

That you ironically demand this same sort of interpretation for Windu vs. Sidious amuses me to no end.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I see no such common sense at all in fact.

I imagine it's hard to see that which you're incapable of.

Where is the common sense in viewing Yoda not being able to defeat Anakin at? I see no such common sense at all in fact.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No. Because I believe Yoda would have defeated Dooku had the fight continued.

Sure - he would have. Dooku basically just held him off, and did a great job of it, considering who he was fighting.

That speaks to Dooku's skill, which is considerable.

But Annie did better than a rusty-version of Yoda in that particular department, later on.

And I don't see this difference between AOTC Yoda and ROTS Yoda that you see.

Imagine if you were bought free passes to a martial arts Dojo - you train there for ten years (Or how about we say, 30) and you attain a multi-degree Black belt rank.

You become amongst the most skilled and experienced members of that Dojo.

- Then you get called off to war.

You fight in a war for three years, as a sort of Front-line commander - you get involved in firefights, and a large share of close-encounters with the enemy, that require hand-to-hand combat.

You return 3 years later.

- In three years, a person can't age much - but they can sharpen their skillset, and learn much more than they had before.

After those three years, not only would you be a better fighter - you would be a considerably better combatant - with your outlook changed, skillset more geared towards combative efficiency.

- That was the Yoda that existed after the Clone Wars.

Beforehand, he hadn't participated in a war; certainly not like the Clone Wars - he was just a highly skilled and powerful Jedi Master.

- After the War, he wasn't rusty anymore, as he had been before, and his skillset was sharpened, and he was more used to fighting powerful and deadly opponents.

Before the war, in a short duel, he was only able to stalemate an equally-rusty Dooku.

- After the war, in a short duel, he was able to disarm a fully-seasoned Darth Sidious.

- That's the difference.

Peak Anakin could kill AotC Yoda in a pure-saber duel.

Originally posted by axel_jovan
I agree with the point that pure sabers are the only area Anakin can contend with Yoda (though, I'll give the edge to Yoda)
In the Force--Yoda takes it,
and so Yoda takes all out (against Zone Anakin) 7/10

I agree with this also - it's a good way to look at it.

In 10 fights with each other, Zonakin would definitely kill AotC Yoda in some of those fights.

Originally posted by Rookwood
Imagine if you were bought free passes to a martial arts Dojo - you train there for ten years (Or how about we say, 30) and you attain a multi-degree Black belt rank.

You become amongst the most skilled and experienced members of that Dojo.

- Then you get called off to war.

You fight in a war for three years, as a sort of Front-line commander - you get involved in firefights, and a large share of close-encounters with the enemy, that require hand-to-hand combat.

You return 3 years later.

- In three years, a person can't age much - but they can sharpen their skillset, and learn much more than they had before.

After those three years, not only would you be a better fighter - you would be a considerably better combatant - with your outlook changed, skillset more geared towards combative efficiency.

- That was the Yoda that existed after the Clone Wars.

Beforehand, he hadn't participated in a war; certainly not like the Clone Wars - he was just a highly skilled and powerful Jedi Master.

- After the War, he wasn't rusty anymore, as he had been before, and his skillset was sharpened, and he was more used to fighting powerful and deadly opponents.

Before the war, in a short duel, he was only able to stalemate an equally-rusty Dooku.

- After the war, in a short duel, he was able to disarm a fully-seasoned Darth Sidious.

- That's the difference.

Peak Anakin could kill AotC Yoda in a pure-saber duel.

As for Yoda he confronted darksiders before, Dagobah is one of the proofs. In my opinion because of his size he can stalemate in combat anyone. While he lacks disarming power as seen in AotC, I think it's nearly impossible to strike down such a small midget whirlwinding all over the place. Sidious was especially at disadvantage on those platforms, he couldn't move around, while Yoda
could still jump around like always.

Are you serious ?
he barely beat Obi Wan. I wouldn't disrespect Yoda to
AOTC Anakin
Most definitely not ROTS Anakin or Pre or Peak suit Vader.

if Dooku and Sidious had a hard time with Yoda
what makes yall think that ROTS or Zone Anakin can beat Yoda?

In AOTC Obi Wan told Anakin that HE didn't rival Master Yoda as a Swordsman.
Only in Anakin's mind
just like this thread if you think Anakin can beat Yoda in a Saber duel.... lol

Imagine ?
I can already see Yoda's blade every where.
and Anakin making that same mistake with Obi Wan

Except Yoda will meet Anakin in mid - air taking the very same limbs
Obi Wan took from him. lol

Originally posted by juyomaster34
Imagine ?
I can already see Yoda's blade every where.
and Anakin making that same mistake with Obi Wan

Except Yoda will meet Anakin in mid - air taking the very same limbs
Obi Wan took from him. lol

what makes yall think that ROTS or Zone Anakin can beat Yoda?

Originally posted by Arhael
Plenty of reasons really...

None of them valid, of course, but don't let that stop you. 👆

Originally posted by The_Tempest
None of them valid, of course, but don't let that stop you. 👆

How about centuries to your thousand?
We don't know Yoda's Force reserves
Yoda is still everywhere and nowhere for Anakin to even grab or strike him.

Yoda is just too fast and too far experience ed for Anakin.
He never rivaled Yoda.

I agree with Tempest.

Arhael,that's like me trying to fight the Grand Master of any martial art style .
seriously!!!
the fight will be over before I bow to the master or ATTEMPT to rise my hands !!!! lol. 😆 😆 😆 😆

No almost 800yrs. Damn!!!that's a long time to a thousand or so hrs of training and in the CW.

Originally posted by juyomaster34
No almost 800yrs. Damn!!!that's a long time to a thousand or so hrs of training and in the CW.

One more thing Yoda doesn't give in to blind rage or the dark side so thats 3 stikes against
any Anakin of any era.

Yoda got this one!!!
Yoda probably won't even clash blades or touch blades with Anakin.
He'll be moving so fast that it will look like Anakin fighting himself!!! LOL

Then he'll get angry,then he'll give in to rage and the dark side blindly
And finally loosing some limbs or his head!!! take your pick.

I personally take back every wrong thing I said about Yoda. 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by juyomaster34
One more thing Yoda doesn't give in to blind rage or the dark side so thats 3 stikes against
any Anakin of any era.

Yoda got this one!!!
Yoda probably won't even clash blades or touch blades with Anakin.
He'll be moving so fast that it will look like Anakin fighting himself!!! LOL

Then he'll get angry,then he'll give in to rage and the dark side blindly
And finally loosing some limbs or his head!!! take your pick.

I personally take back every wrong thing I said about Yoda. 😆 😆 😆 😆