Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
This looked like Whedon and Marvel was aiming for Michael Bay style action.
Yeah I kind of felt they pulled a Transformers for this sequel.
As in spending loads of money on the action and special effects knowing it was going to make huge money regardless. But with that much action it's a safe bet that most people will at least moderately enjoy it, perhaps even love it.
The thing about this is they may just have lost a lot of returning business. I sure as heck won't be coming back to see it. The movie was just so dumb. Why does Tony need Ultron? He has an AI named Jarvis. The whole creation of Ultron not well thought it. Even Iron Man 2 was a better movie. The way it setup the Avengers made in it's storyline. Age of Ultron was blazing ahead and jumping all over the place. It was like Transformers storyline and bad jokes from IM3 came together to form this movie.
Alright so about this flick.
It wasn't great. Some would say that's because it's impossible to follow the first one, but this was pretty messy.
First - in non spoiler territory - was what it looked like. I had a hard time following a lot of the action too. That shot of protecting the core was fun (Yay it's all of them!) but then it quickly became a blur of craziness. It really played just like the first one. I was hoping a more creative ending would have been established. Yeah, it's fun to get everybody into the final fight scene, but it felt lifeless almost.
As well, I don't know if this was just me - but did the action sound weird to anybody else? Almost hollow? Especially during the opening sequence. I could hear the punching and the lasers, but it seemed really quiet? It really stood out to me and I haven't ever had an issue like that in the past.
And now the spoiler territory.
Hawkeye
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It was great to see him actually be a part of the team and get more interaction. His lines were great. Despite being the least "useful" of the team, Hawkeye as a character has always been interesting considering his lack of powers. A guy who can summon lightning and an unbeatable monster are less interesting character-wise. His "not a fan of mind control" joke killed me. It was cool they gave him a story and like, an actual background - and it serviced the story fine. But I'm also disappointed with what his story was, and now there's no way we'll ever get that "Hawkguy" solo movie that would be anywhere near as fun.
Black Widow & Hulk
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I didn't care for either of these characters this go around. Hulk was less fun, Black Widow did more Black Widow stuff. Their relationship sorta came out of nowhere and didn't resonate with me. Maybe I would have gotten on board if at the end of the movie Nick Fury didn't admit to trying to play matchmaker with them in a desperate sense of Marvel implying "we were going this way the whole time!" Bring back Betty Ross, don't shoehorn one character. I was grateful we got some Black Widow background though, so props to that.
Ultron
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Well, Spader's performance was good. Let's give him credit there. But the character was boring. His plan was insane. When he first was created it was terrifying. I thought "Well, the world is ****ed." Then he like...didn't really do anything. He could have destroyed the planet instantly, but chose not to. I also don't understand why he needed any humans help with any technological thing. Why did he need that korean scientist lady? Did she not keep her work on like a computer? His lines were fun though, but yeah, hoping for a really good Marvel villain finally. Still no such luck.
The Twins
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Well these two were boring weren't they? Soon as Quicksilver showed some actual interesting traits he up and dies. That was a letdown. Scarlet Witch is one of the most interesting and multi-faceted characters in Marvel Comics. This was not Scarlet Witch at all.
It seemed like all of the parts that the audience really cheered for was just when people showed up.
There was *that* Vision moment in Avengers Tower that had some applause, but the rest was just "Oh yay they are in this!" and then more kinda boredom. Repeated for about 2 hours.
Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
The thing about this is they may just have lost a lot of returning business. I sure as heck won't be coming back to see it.
Honestly I think it will get repeat business. I think it will do as well as A1, or even surpass it.
I've seen it twice because I was booked to watch it twice on the opening weekend. Then who knows, someone might really want to watch it and drag me a 3rd time (not likely but it can happen). That's what happens when people are really hyped up and excited for a movie.
And the amount of great action and visuals will definitely help it get repeat viewings. Works for Transformers.
Caught it last night.
I think it was pretty good all things considered. Whedon is still the champion of snark and team dynamics. It's apparent that TWS really raised Cap's stock and he was rightly at the forefront of this one {As much as I love RDJ & Iron Man, I'm glad rumors of Stark being a "co-leader" were greatly exaggerated}. I found Ultron to be observably more formidable and effective than Loki though he failed to match the same level of Shakespearean pathos. That said, Spader owned this movie despite the limitations of motion-capture.
That said, this wasn't a great movie. The Avengers was bursting at the seams with team members confirmed and prospective. Too many heroes and faces to juggle and no one with the stones to trim the fat.
Spoiler:was a step in the right direction with regards to thinning the herd and imbuing the plot with some sense of consequence. I've never been an emo kid chanting "grimdark, grimdark!" but with so much going on, the heroes' victory and the movie itself would have benefited from a sense of dire consequence to what was going on.
Quicksilver's death
Which leads me to my biggest issue walking away from AoU.
Spoiler:. After the developments of Cap2 and Agents of Shield, I'm seriously disappointed with what happened here. What made Cap2 so good is that it totally shattered an otherwise strained equilibrium in the MCU. It really conveyed a sense of profound consequence and dark times ahead while ending on a mildly hopeful note {cf. the end of Revenge of the Sith}. AoU pretty much shits on that, cuts
HYDRA
Spoiler:down yet again before its time, and
HYDRA
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SHIELD returns out of the blue, new and improved.
I'd give it a 7/10 at most.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'd give it a 7/10 at most.
After reading your review, your score seems too high for you. lol
I'll be seeing this with the lady on Sunday. I gave Avengers an 8 out of 10, iirc. Or was it a 7 out of 10? Anyway, I hope this is gewd.
Edit - Quincy, I liked your review the best, so far. Concise and non-spoiler/spoiler halved.
Originally posted by KazenjiSpoiler:
what makes you think J.A.R.V.I.S. would'eve went the same way?....he's always kind to Stark not some nasty prick of an A.I.
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Obviosly he didn't. But at the same time Stark didn't expect Ultron to be genocidal either... Seriously, Stark and Banner ate the two insane idiots and the movie hand waves it because they are "monsters" and "mad scientist".
Originally posted by dadudemon
After reading your review, your score seems too high for you. lolI'll be seeing this with the lady on Sunday. I gave Avengers an 8 out of 10, iirc. Or was it a 7 out of 10? Anyway, I hope this is gewd.
Edit - Quincy, I liked your review the best, so far. Concise and non-spoiler/spoiler halved.
I liked it better than the first one, but you'll be able to see why many didn't like it. Action was great but the plot has holes and can be convoluted. The action makes it worth it though.
Humor was typical, a lot of funny moments but they really tried to oversell it here. It got annoying at times but you'll laugh.
Team chemistry was amazing though, the interactions as an entire group were great.
Originally posted by Inhuman
Great movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Only complaints i can think of are: The wow factor of seeing them all together is gone and it was a bit heavy on ironman/tony stark.
Yea and they ****ed Thor over again, he only got one good scene with helping destroy the floating city. Now Jarvis/Vision can wield the hammer, kinda bs.. Seems like it should not be that way. Cap/Ironman/Hulk was getting all the good action scenes.