Avengers: Age of Ultron

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
On a random note, to the other people who have seen it, anyone feel like Cap is veering more and more away from "peak" human and closer to watered down Asgardian. Just compare him in The First Avenger to how he is portrayed in Age of Ultron. Some of the impacts and blows he tanks, seemingly without any injury, was insane

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especially his showing in his fight vs Ultron

. And his strength feats this movie are also pushed to a new level IMO. Almost can't believe it's the same character.

It only stands to reason that Cap would become progressively better and stronger as he hones himself.

In First Avenger, Cap had just gotten his powers and hadn't mastered them to the fullest extent. In Avengers 1, Cap had just awakened from 50 years of being frozen and had little time to further develop his skills and strength. By the time Winter Soldier came around, Cap had plenty of opportunity to go on missions and hone himself. Now in Age of Ultron, he should get even better.

Originally posted by Firefly218
It only stands to reason that Cap would become progressively better and stronger as he hones himself.

In First Avenger, Cap had just gotten his powers and hadn't mastered them to the fullest extent. In Avengers 1, Cap had just awakened from 50 years of being frozen and had little time to further develop his skills and strength. By the time Winter Soldier came around, Cap had plenty of opportunity to go on missions and hone himself. Now in Age of Ultron, he should get even better.

Not just that though. His physical stats seem to slowly be increasing as well. Almost like he is moving from comic 616 Cap to Ultimate Cap. I guess they could come up with a plausible explanation if they ever felt like addressing it. Could just say the SS syrum is still active and slowly continuing to change him, or something along those lines. It's clearly something most people in the MCU still know relatively little about.

Or maybe it's a case like MoS Superman, kind of like you said. He hasn't actually really reached his limits yet, so every time he pushes himself a little further. One thing that is blatantly obvious now is that he does generally hold a lot in reserve.

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If he had gone at Batroc like he did at Ultron, he would have straight up killed him in seconds.

Originally posted by Mindset
Please don't lie to me.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Nobody did, but it's better than AoU for sure. At least it didn't have every character sound like a 20-something hipster douchebag.

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The way they forgave Stark for creating Ultron was simply laughable.

They should have named this film Evacuators: Snark of Ultron.

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Yes because Stark just knew the A.I. was going to act like the way it did.... 🙄

Well maybe these were covered in AoS/somewhere in the movie or I'm simply not supposed to care but there are a few nitpicks I want to make like:

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How did Cap get his shield back? Was he given a new one and if so how? Did Stark just feel like making suits again but w/o the anxiety issue? I know Thor renounced his claim to the throne and all but why did he decide to come back to Earth in the beginning? Did he just miss his friends?

And how did Fury get access to a Helicarrier in such short notice if Shield is "officially" disbanded

Originally posted by Kazenji

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Yes because Stark just knew the A.I. was going to act like the way it did.... 🙄

Isn't every Iron Man movie that, though?

"This tech I made is sweet but bad guys have it. NEVER AGAIN!"

Like, 3 times?

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka
Well maybe these were covered in AoS/somewhere in the movie or I'm simply not supposed to care but there are a few nitpicks I want to make like:

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How did Cap get his shield back? Was he given a new one and if so how? Did Stark just feel like making suits again but w/o the anxiety issue? I know Thor renounced his claim to the throne and all but why did he decide to come back to Earth in the beginning? Did he just miss his friends?

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I'm assuming you mean when he loses it at the end of TWS. It was his same shield. Not sure how they got it back for him. Some schmuck probably got tasked with looking for it under all the wreckage. Something like that is too valuable to lose. We hear Tony and Steve talk about how they thought Tony's father had gotten all the vibranium from Wakanda (and they look over to his shield, implying it is still the only vibranium they know of, and logically would still be his same shield).

Tony seems to have gotten over his anxiety from Avengers during IM3 for the most part, after the events with Killian. But now his obsessions have shifted with the whole Iron Legion and AI thing. After the events of Age of Ultron, he is probably going to carry a lot of guilt, which will partly lead to the events of Civil War.

Thor said that he was putting Earth under his protection at the end of Thor 2, which is one of the main reasons he gives up his claim on the throne. So makes sense for him to be around. And remember, they were also still looking for Loki's staff at the beginning of the film, which would give him another reason to be present.

Originally posted by wakkawakkawakka

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And how did Fury get access to a Helicarrier in such short notice if Shield is "officially" disbanded

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Because he is m****f***** Samuel L Jackson. Seriously though, just chalk it up to Nick Fury being Nick Fury, and pulling some random crap out of his ass, like he usually does.

Originally posted by Kazenji

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Yes because Stark just knew the A.I. was going to act like the way it did.... 🙄

And? He f***ed up majorly and nearly destroyed the world. A "whoops, my bad" ain't going to cover it.

Yes, I'm really going to be surprised if anyone trusts him enough to be in charge of whatever he is for Civil War.

Not even mentioning that

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he doesn't give a "whoops, my bad" he laughs at everyone and starts lashing out.

Enjoyed it a lot

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller

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I'm assuming you mean when he loses it at the end of TWS. It was his same shield. Not sure how they got it back for him. Some schmuck probably got tasked with looking for it under all the wreckage. Something like that is too valuable to lose. We hear Tony and Steve talk about how they thought Tony's father had gotten all the vibranium from Wakanda (and they look over to his shield, implying it is still the only vibranium they know of, and logically would still be his same shield).

Tony seems to have gotten over his anxiety from Avengers during IM3 for the most part, after the events with Killian. But now his obsessions have shifted with the whole Iron Legion and AI thing. After the events of Age of Ultron, he is probably going to carry a lot of guilt, which will partly lead to the events of Civil War.

Thor said that he was putting Earth under his protection at the end of Thor 2, which is one of the main reasons he gives up his claim on the throne. So makes sense for him to be around. And remember, they were also still looking for Loki's staff at the beginning of the film, which would give him another reason to be present.

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I get the Thor thing, must've missed something in Thor 2, but Cap's shield and Iron Man making suits again without any cause don't make any sense to me. Was the suit thing just setup for Civil War or just making up for Iron Man 3?

Great movie. I enjoyed it very much.
Only complaints i can think of are: The wow factor of seeing them all together is gone and it was a bit heavy on ironman/tony stark.

It was decent. Completely pales in comparison to the first, but still quite good.

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Ultron was kinda lame, mainly because of his snark. And Tony creating Vision was dumb as hell. He just created a genocidal maniac and he decides to try again? Jesus. Also wasn't a fan of the scene where they stopped the action for like ten minutes and wasted it showing them escorting people onto planes. Finally, I felt many of the jokes fell flat.

Action was pretty good though, the Avengers defending the core was fantastic. The twins were cool, especially Scarlet Witch. And I liked seeing them bring in all the "sidekicks" in to create the New Avengers.

Just saw this movie and I hated a lot of it. So much disappointment. I came in with high hopes and faith in Whedon, but this was atrocious. Furious 7 was way better than this movie. This looked like Whedon and Marvel was aiming for Michael Bay style action. Sometimes I wasn't even sure what was going on since everybody was moving so fast. This movie was all over the place in terms of story telling. The first movie was well balanced story telling that made everyone shine.

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Ultron was biggest disappointment of this movie. The guy didn't look that great at all. He was too emotional, not cold and calculating at all. Ultron's moving face was such a distraction; he felt too human. His plan was out right silly. Then there was the product placements everywhere. The guy was getting handled. Whedon had about 3 years to come up with something and he failed. I don't know how much Disney and Marvel had to do with this; I don't think Whedon is at total fault. Some of stuff in the trailers that were really great moments were left out and what I felt were poorer cuts of a scene was used instead. Even most of the jokes weren't funny; they were pushed on us like Iron Man 3. They even wasted a potentially good villain by killing Baron Strucker.

Originally posted by ares834
It was decent. Completely pales in comparison to the first, but still quite good.

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Ultron was kinda lame, mainly because of his snark. And Tony creating Vision was dumb as hell. He just created a genocidal maniac and he decides to try again? Jesus. Also wasn't a fan of the scene where they stopped the action for like ten minutes and wasted it showing them escorting people onto planes. Finally, I felt many of the jokes fell flat.

Action was pretty good though, the Avengers defending the core was fantastic. The twins were cool, especially Scarlet Witch. And I liked seeing them bring in all the "sidekicks" in to create the New Avengers.

Pretty much my opinion as well. I'll only be seeing this once in theaters. It wasn't as fun as the first, IMO.

I loved Ultron. I think James Spader did an amazing job.

Yeah, don't get the hate. I was entertained the whole way through, and thought that Ultron was actually handled well. An eccentric, child-like psychopath is way more interesting than another generic, stoic badass.

Originally posted by ares834

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And Tony creating Vision was dumb as hell. He just created a genocidal maniac and he decides to try again? Jesus..

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what makes you think J.A.R.V.I.S. would'eve went the same way?....he's always kind to Stark not some nasty prick of an A.I.

From what I hear, the main problem of this film seems to be that there is so much MCU setup material that this film must insert for obligatory sequel baiting that it makes the plot very noticeably bloated and it's clear Whedon must perform a massive juggling act giving all of the plot elements equal relevance.

Meh, I'll see it anyway. IMO, there was nothing overtly special or good about the first film besides the fact that it was a superhero crossover, which at that time had rarely if ever been done. Avengers 1 was no TDK in terms of quality. Even Whedon recognized the laziness of the script.