Dooku vs Maul

Started by Nephthys25 pages

Yeah, definately not after this I'd say:

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LOL I've found the Maul vs Savage fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2s5H4kbmjw

It's at around 6:40.

And yeah it's a proper stomp!

Not had a chance to watch the whole thing yet, so not sure how much of the episode is on it.

Edit- Yeah checked it's just some Maul and Savage scenes. The rest is an interview.

Actually, the magazine does specify that Maul's abilities as a swordsman and fighter are superior, but that Savage's Force powers are greater. I still don't buy it, even though Maul putting Savage on his ass in that clip does nothing to contradict it.

Well Maul has never impressed me with his Force powers, so I'm a bit more open to that. He hasn't done anything as impressive as lifting those obelisks at least.

Maul has been enhanced by Talzin's magic after all.

I'm pretty sure Maul goes Starkiller on some newbz with Savage in the recently released Death Sentence comic, but I'm going to download it just to check.

Yeah, just flipping through: Maul lifts and hurls nine armed soldiers at once while speaking to Savage; later, he and Savage drop from a tunnel and both emit a Force wave that scatters dozens of an approaching army, scattering them like leaves before a hurricane's gale and the present Jedi Master and his padawan withstand with noticeable effort; then when Savage is captured, Maul escapes by collapsing the massive tunnel and loosing an avalanche of rocks through the Force. I wish I could provide screen captures, but I can't atm.

Tossing 9 people really isn't that great of a feat, honestly. I mean, on the general "force scale". We've seen padawans/apprentices hurl multi-ton electronics around before.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Tossing 9 people really isn't that great of a feat, honestly. I mean, on the general "force scale". We've seen padawans/apprentices hurl multi-ton electronics around before.

That's true, but it's better than what we've seen from him before.

Give him time, grasshopper. He'll be pwning capital ships and slaying Gungans before the year's out.

Somehow I doubt that considering spoilers.

You never know, especially since Witwer's been recording dialogue for Maul supposedly post-S5.

His imminuity to electricity is pretty impressive, and when somebody tried to read his mind they died instantly. And there is no doubt Maul is more skilled swordsman than Dooku.

It's true he's never had any high end force feats, but to be fair he's never had any low showings either.

But with Current Maul I really don't see how else he could just manhandle Opress's tremendous strength like that, without having gained vast power in the force himself.

Unless he's supposed to be physically on par with Opress.

Either way I'm sure there was more to it than just Judo arm twists. Even with his Saber he was easily parrying Opress's 2 handed strikes with just one hand. And Opress does say to him "You've become powerful"

It looked to me like he was deflecting the momentum of the blows. And he's always been pretty strong, though not as strong.

Originally posted by Q99
It looked to me like he was deflecting the momentum of the blows.

Possible. But what about the arm twist. Could have been some martial art move, but he'd still have to be pretty damn strong to do that to Opress Imo.

The question is if that strength is physical, or if it's come from a boost in power.

Originally posted by iamberserk!
His imminuity to electricity is pretty impressive, and when somebody tried to read his mind they died instantly. And there is no doubt Maul is more skilled swordsman than Dooku.

What?

Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
What?

You're right. If we talk about pure fencing, Count Dooku is likely the most skilled in the PT era (except Yoda). The Master of Makashi has to mean that much at least. Saying anything else is stupid.

But overall in close combat Maul may be a more skilled combatant, because you have to factor in his martial art skills, mastery of more unorthodox weapons like the Saber staff and fighting forms like Teras Kasi, Jar Kai e.t.c.

Now comparing Current Maul to Dooku I'm thinking about the Dooku vs Ventress & Opress fight, and thinking if we replaced Dooku with Maul in that fight, then Opress would have been cut down quite quickly which would have just left Maul vs Ventress.

On the other hand that maybe a bad A>B>C argument. Dunno.

I got the feeling in that fight that if Dooku had wanted to take Opress out he could have.

As much as I'd like to think that, I doubt he was holding back on him simply because he ordered his droids commander to eliminate him, the reason being he was a traitor.

IMO there were a few times when Opress was clearly open and he could have killed him but didn't.

For what it's worth, the official website notes that Dooku's abilities "barely" gave him the edge over Ventress and Opress in their fight.

That seems a bit of an understatement considering he was easily dancing around Opress and then wtfpwning him with Force Lightning. The only part where he looked to be in any danger was when Opress battered him across the room and got all roidrage on both of them.