Originally posted by carver9
Hahahahahahaha...can someone tell me what that mean please?
Originally posted by Cogito
Well, when I posted that the thread was IM vs. Hulk, but even with the changed roster it's still no contest.Infinity Man killed hundreds of thousands of New Gods so fast that nobody even noticed him.
He stalemated ALE Mr. Miracle.
He killed the Black Racer (an avatar of death)
He beat Orion in a literal flash (and Orion is a match for non-Void Sentry and above Nova and BM).
So yeah, it's no contest.
I can't accept him being as powerful as you are saying outside of the New Gods. It was more like he was granted power to be the bane of the New Gods, much like Drax is to Thanos, because if he were that powerful he would have one shotted Superman. I have the entire series, and read it back and forth, and I can not make sense of Superman hurting him, while Superman was unable to hurt Black Racer, yet the Infinity Man killed the Black Racer. Orion tussles with Superman as well earlier on in the arc, and get turned out off panel, and yet again Superman was able to make the Infinity Man cry out in pain from a punch.
I am in no way putting Superman down, but there should have been no contest whatsoever. Also the Infinity Man did not defeat Superman, but instead locked in down in a cube of force. If not for the Superman incident I would have no trouble calling the Infinity Man a with whatever power the Source gave him, and Elite Sky Father, but the Superman battle has left me contemplating High Herald-Low Trans at best.
Can someone that is not biased, and in love with the New Gods please check it out and judge correctly. I believe that he was the New God's bane, or silver bullet. Imbued with the power to assassinate them. That is it, and that is all.
Originally posted by Stoic
I can't accept him being as powerful as you are saying outside of the New Gods. It was more like he was granted power to be the bane of the New Gods, much like Drax is to Thanos, because if he were that powerful he would have one shotted Superman. I have the entire series, and read it back and forth, and I can not make sense of Superman hurting him, while Superman was unable to hurt Black Racer, yet the Infinity Man killed the Black Racer. Orion tussles with Superman as well earlier on in the arc, and get turned out off panel, and yet again Superman was able to make the Infinity Man cry out in pain from a punch.I am in no way putting Superman down, but there should have been no contest whatsoever. Also the Infinity Man did not defeat Superman, but instead locked in down in a cube of force. If not for the Superman incident I would have no trouble calling the Infinity Man a with whatever power the Source gave him, and Elite Sky Father, but the Superman battle has left me contemplating High Herald-Low Trans at best.
Can someone that is not biased, and in love with the New Gods please check it out and judge correctly. I believe that he was the New God's bane, or silver bullet. Imbued with the power to assassinate them. That is it, and that is all.
Infinity Man didn't kill Superman for the same reason lots of super powerful beings don't kill Superman (or Thor, or Captain America, or Batman, or whomever).
Superman didn't hurt him, he punched him and then IM was basically like "***** please" and trapped him in some light prison like he was a feeb.
If your measure of power is whether or not Superman is killed in the first second of interaction, then it's your gauge that's broken.
Originally posted by Stoic
I can't accept him being as powerful as you are saying outside of the New Gods. It was more like he was granted power to be the bane of the New Gods, much like Drax is to Thanos, because if he were that powerful he would have one shotted Superman. I have the entire series, and read it back and forth, and I can not make sense of Superman hurting him, while Superman was unable to hurt Black Racer, yet the Infinity Man killed the Black Racer. Orion tussles with Superman as well earlier on in the arc, and get turned out off panel, and yet again Superman was able to make the Infinity Man cry out in pain from a punch.I am in no way putting Superman down, but there should have been no contest whatsoever. Also the Infinity Man did not defeat Superman, but instead locked in down in a cube of force. If not for the Superman incident I would have no trouble calling the Infinity Man a with whatever power the Source gave him, and Elite Sky Father, but the Superman battle has left me contemplating High Herald-Low Trans at best.
Can someone that is not biased, and in love with the New Gods please check it out and judge correctly. I believe that he was the New God's bane, or silver bullet. Imbued with the power to assassinate them. That is it, and that is all.
Superman power depends on the story and what he needs to do. He isn't SS or Thor, he is Superman and this is the sole reason why he can do what other Heralds can't, like taking on DS and looking good. Superman should never be used as a low feat, like other Heralds, on the contrary. Just because Superman is considered a High Herald and can do something doesn't means others can repeat it just because they are in the same "Tier", DC Comics or Comics in general don't give a sh1t about tiers, only the Story matters and Superman will always safe the day if everything else fails.
Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Superman power depends on the story and what he needs to do. He isn't SS or Thor, he is Superman and this is the sole reason why he can do what other Heralds can't, like taking on DS and looking good. Superman should never be used as a low feat, like other Heralds, on the contrary. Just because Superman is considered a High Herald and can do something doesn't means others can repeat it just because they are in the same "Tier", DC Comics or Comics in general don't give a sh1t about tiers, only the Story matters and Superman will always safe the day if everything else fails.
Calm down on the superman wank, its fans like you who give him a bad name
Originally posted by pym-ftw
The fail in this post is astounding, all characters given enough appearances will have high and low showings. You act like its something superman invented.Calm down on the superman wank, its fans like you who give him a bad name
The fail in your comprehension is astounding. It's not wank, it's a fact that DC treats Superman differently. Read, think, post.
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Originally posted by pym-ftw
Every flagship character is protected, from Spiderman, Captain America, Batman, anyone who makes money and moves merchandise.The fact you think this is a phenomena that only happens in superman comics is idiotic
Most people refer to this as pis, but really its just property protection
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You are wasting my time. The fact that you think that Superman doesn't has a special status is idiotic, fact.
Read IC "Everything comes from Superman"
and
FC "Supermans Story is the greatest Story told"
That's a fact in the DCU. He has a special place, not only to be protected or because he is the first Superhero ever. DC decided that and this is the reason why he can do thing far beyond his tier, should the story require it.