Superman's battle with the Source powered Infinity was was competitive. Can someone post scans, instead of opinion? I have the entire arc, and my prior post was not overturned. All I saw was more of the same opinions, but Superman was able to actually hurt the Infinity Man, and Superman is not a Sky Father level character, nor was he ever portrayed as such within that arc. We really need an unbiased opinion here. I have no stake in any of the characters, and this I believe has given me an objective view here. The Infinity Man was unable to put Superman down the way that Odin, or Tyrant would be able to put him down, so his showings against guys that were more powerful than Superman had to be due to silver bullet reasons like Drax is to Thanos. On top of it all, none of the New Gods were killed on panel, so everything outside of Superman giving him a competitive battle is BS.
The Source powered Infinity Man has no business being rated higher than High Herald-Low Trans at most. The Source could have easily given him the power to rip apart New Gods, but when it came to other characters he may have not been more powerful than his base stats. Or he would have one shot KO'd Superman, nor would he have felt his punches the way he did. Again please do not attempt to sell me on the battle, because I have the books. Superman hurt him, where he would not be able to Hurt Tyrant who laughed off Beta Ray Bills best strike, and had Galactus on the ropes, to even making Thanos concede in a physical battle.
More than off panel culling's are in order, to prove that the IM was on that level.
Originally posted by Stoic
Superman's battle with the Source powered Infinity was was competitive. Can someone post scans, instead of opinion?
Originally posted by Galan007
IM takes on Superman:Granted, Supes got in some nice hits, but he was easily contained in the end..
It was not at all competitive. Superman hit IM, IM hit Superman harder. Superman heat vision'd IM,IM blasted him harder. After their very brief fight IM easily ended it because he wasn't there for Superman. He didn't give two shits whether Superman lived or died.
tldr; Infinity Man didn't kill Superman because he didn't want/need to.
Originally posted by Stoic
Superman's battle with the Source powered Infinity was was competitive. Can someone post scans, instead of opinion? I have the entire arc, and my prior post was not overturned. All I saw was more of the same opinions, but Superman was able to actually hurt the Infinity Man, and Superman is not a Sky Father level character, nor was he ever portrayed as such within that arc. We really need an unbiased opinion here. I have no stake in any of the characters, and this I believe has given me an objective view here. The Infinity Man was unable to put Superman down the way that Odin, or Tyrant would be able to put him down, so his showings against guys that were more powerful than Superman had to be due to silver bullet reasons like Drax is to Thanos. On top of it all, none of the New Gods were killed on panel, so everything outside of Superman giving him a competitive battle is BS.The Source powered Infinity Man has no business being rated higher than High Herald-Low Trans at most. The Source could have easily given him the power to rip apart New Gods, but when it came to other characters he may have not been more powerful than his base stats. Or he would have one shot KO'd Superman, nor would he have felt his punches the way he did. Again please do not attempt to sell me on the battle, because I have the books. Superman hurt him, where he would not be able to Hurt Tyrant who laughed off Beta Ray Bills best strike, and had Galactus on the ropes, to even making Thanos concede in a physical battle.
More than off panel culling's are in order, to prove that the IM was on that level.
Originally posted by Stoic
Superman's battle with the Source powered Infinity was was competitive. Can someone post scans, instead of opinion? I have the entire arc, and my prior post was not overturned. All I saw was more of the same opinions, but Superman was able to actually hurt the Infinity Man, and Superman is not a Sky Father level character, nor was he ever portrayed as such within that arc. We really need an unbiased opinion here. I have no stake in any of the characters, and this I believe has given me an objective view here. The Infinity Man was unable to put Superman down the way that Odin, or Tyrant would be able to put him down, so his showings against guys that were more powerful than Superman had to be due to silver bullet reasons like Drax is to Thanos. On top of it all, none of the New Gods were killed on panel, so everything outside of Superman giving him a competitive battle is BS.The Source powered Infinity Man has no business being rated higher than High Herald-Low Trans at most. The Source could have easily given him the power to rip apart New Gods, but when it came to other characters he may have not been more powerful than his base stats. Or he would have one shot KO'd Superman, nor would he have felt his punches the way he did. Again please do not attempt to sell me on the battle, because I have the books. Superman hurt him, where he would not be able to Hurt Tyrant who laughed off Beta Ray Bills best strike, and had Galactus on the ropes, to even making Thanos concede in a physical battle.
More than off panel culling's are in order, to prove that the IM was on that level.
You are so hard headed is frighting, IM didn't care if Superman lived or died, he wasn't there for Superman end of story, if Superman was "New God" he would have died like the rest of them, after their fight we saw IM true power when went headed up with Miracle Man w/ ALE they destroyed the Source Wall, and you telling us that Superman really fought a all out IM, no he didn't! If he did it would have been the end of Superman. This team will do no better, Sentry could go Void all he wants he would still be fighting a being in IM that fought a New God with ALE= Infinity Gauntlet that would rage stomp into Oblivion.
Originally posted by the Darkone
👆 it's in class or below but still more powerful than the team.
It;s statements like these that make me scratch my head. Superman clearly hurt the IM. This much is certain, or he would not have made the sound of being hurt. I am hoping that you will be able to admit to this, or have you completely ignored it? What do you base IM being even close to the level of the IG? He was powered by the Source, he was not the Source, and for all anyone can tell, he was given power to harm the New Gods, and only the New Gods, which he did.
We all have our opinions but when they mount up to comparing the IM to the IG without any kind of evidence to suggest this, someone needs to step in. You never even once saw IM battle a NG or kill one on panel. Scott was grieved by Barda, and wanted to die so that he might be rejoined with her.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's a leap, tbh.
What feats did the Source entity itself have to even compare it to an IG user? Thanos was battling guys that threw planets at him like you or I could throw baseballs, and they did this without even physically touching these planets. Thanos dealt with these guys as if he were dealing with chiggers and gnats. Yet the Infinity Man is nearly on the level of an IG user with even less power than the being that empowered him? Like I said before, we have our opinion, and I gave my reasons for believing that the IM was given power to specifically deal with New Gods. If he had waved his hand, and made Superman pass out, or KO'd him with a casual slap, I would be more than ready to admit that he was at least on an elite Sky Fathers level.
Plot armor does not sell it for me, because Superman was getting worked by several guys and things that are were far less than Elite Sky Father tier beings. Now if someone can not understand this, there is simply nothing that I can do about, unless they are suggesting that Orion, Shadow Demons, Kalibak & Mantis, are the equivalent of Odin. The IM was clearly more powerful than Superman, but not to the point that Tyrant would be above Superman. This after all is my prerogative and no one has to agree with me. I'm just saying that there is a lack of evidence, and certain things throughout historical canon concerning New Gods, Superman, and the Infinity Man does not jive with me.
