I hate Vader and Luke but I'm just having fun!!!!
It's cool Obi 's a guy that reveal much until you force him to REALLY defend himself.
I gave Zone Anakin his Props.
He Overwhelmed him.
Until Obi Wan decided to use the environment and the terrain (Sokan)
that's what got him.
Now if Zone Anakin was in control mixing Djem So with Dun Moch
(taunting) & (throwing objects )with the Force....man then we'll have a fight!!!
Originally posted by juyomaster34
I hate Vader and Luke but I'm just having fun!!!!
It's cool Obi 's a guy that reveal much until you force him to REALLY defend himself.
I gave Zone Anakin his Props.
He Overwhelmed him.Until Obi Wan decided to use the environment and the terrain (Sokan)
that's what got him.Now if Zone Anakin was in control mixing Djem So with Dun Moch
(taunting) & (throwing objects )with the Force....man then we'll have a fight!!!
Originally posted by juyomaster34
Hey sorry about the name I apologise Darth Sadow 1
good name ,I won't call you shadow,Lord Lucien thanks for the error....funny guy!!!lol 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆
This is only my first post, but surely it'd be ZonAnakin. As RotS Vader he was clearly the superior fighter regarding swordplay, and if in the Zone his fighting capabilities would only increase. He'd pretty much destroy Obi-Wan.
And regarding the foolish decision Anakin made that lost him his limbs, one can't argue its a reason ZonAnakin would lose to Obi-Wan. Not only had he just force choked his wife and betrayed everything he once stood for, which would undoubtedly be causing some mental trauma and thus affect decision making, ZonAnakin would possess the "pristine clarity" that RotS Vader lacked, and as such the chances of him making a decision like that are virtually nonexistent.
Originally posted by KylarWhiteAll the reason why it makes Kenobi's win over Anakin make him look better. If Anakin was so skillful and would pretty much destroy Obi wan, why didn't he?
This is only my first post, but surely it'd be ZonAnakin. As RotS Vader he was clearly the superior fighter regarding swordplay, and if in the Zone his fighting capabilities would only increase. He'd pretty much destroy Obi-Wan.
Originally posted by KylarWhiteOkay then why did ZoneAnakin lose? One cannot take into account what Anakin was going through before the fight, because then one would have to take in account the fact that Obi wan had to stop Anakin, which he was reluctant to kill as he had been his padawan for a very long time.
And regarding the foolish decision Anakin made that lost him his limbs, one can't argue its a reason ZonAnakin would lose to Obi-Wan. Not only had he just force choked his wife and betrayed everything he once stood for, which would undoubtedly be causing some mental trauma and thus affect decision making, ZonAnakin would possess the "pristine clarity" that RotS Vader lacked, and as such the chances of him making a decision like that are virtually nonexistent.
Originally posted by mnat801
Okay then why did ZoneAnakin lose? One cannot take into account what Anakin was going through before the fight, because then one would have to take in account the fact that Obi wan had to stop Anakin, which he was reluctant to kill as he had been his padawan for a very long time.
ZonAnakin didn't lose. In the fight on Mustafar it was most definitely not ZonAnakin fighting, but rather pre-suit Vader. The pair are completely different, and the mindset of ZonAnakin results in Anakin being a much better saber duelist. This topic is concerning ZonAnakin and RotS Obi-Wan, not Pre-suit Vader and RotS Obi-Wan. As ZonAnakin, Anakin would win against Obi-Wan.
Furthermore, this thread does not take into account any plot related circumstances. There were extenuating circumstances for Anakin's mindset during the duel on Mustafar. In this, there isn't.
Originally posted by KylarWhiteAnakin/Vader - they're still the same person. I don't think the change of identity would have changed anakins skills with a lightsaber at all.
ZonAnakin didn't lose. In the fight on Mustafar it was most definitely not ZonAnakin fighting, but rather pre-suit Vader. The pair are completely different, and the mindset of ZonAnakin results in Anakin being a much better saber duelist. This topic is concerning ZonAnakin and RotS Obi-Wan, not Pre-suit Vader and RotS Obi-Wan. As ZonAnakin, Anakin would win against Obi-Wan.Furthermore, this thread does not take into account any plot related circumstances. There were extenuating circumstances for Anakin's mindset during the duel on Mustafar. In this, there isn't.
Originally posted by mnat801Skill? No, probably not (unless you subscribe to video-game logic--Level 12 reached! Sith Lightning unlocked!) Ferocity and strength? Absolutely.
Anakin/Vader - they're still the same person. I don't think the change of identity would have changed anakins skills with a lightsaber at all.
Originally posted by Darth _Sadow1I do not disagree with this, however I hope Kenobi's state of mind is being taken into consideration. Remember his talk with Yoda, he said he didn't want to fight Anakin, so in the fight, he is less reluctant to kill his padawan like would with a more obvious enemy e.g grevious. Plus, Vader didn't seem to have any problems with killing off the jedi in the temple (even had one hand behind his back)
Agreed. He wasn't thinking clearly. He was blinded by emotions and his world was burning like the lava. He was in no state to fight anyone, much less one who knows his fighting style inside and out!