Originally posted by NemeBro
I actually do vaguely recall that Nihilus forced a bond on those he uses the technique on, but then severs it, but I am too lazy to find the quote.
You mean the one on the last page?
It's pretty much spelled out when you talk to the Jedi on Dantooine. The Exile Force 8onds with everyone. Hell, she Force 8onded with a ****ing crystal! Pretty much everything comes from her ability to Force 8ond so easily with everything.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Well there is that quote that says that none can stand in his presence without succum8ing to him.Personally I think Viti8s mental domination is too powerful for Nihilus to resist. Its kind of a quick-draw to see who can use their un8locka8le technique first.
If Revan could use his Dark Side Light Side Force Push before the Emperor could mind rape him, Nihilus could do the same.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Yeah, 8ecause Nihilus has such a rich plethora of speed feats.
TK is instantaneous. There's never been a showing of TK not being instant. Your argument is so fallacious it's not even funny.
'Teh quote says the emperor's power can control anyone. So it can...even if other people can resist'
There are no feats of the Emperor's mind control being instant either. So hurry up and concede.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
TK is instantaneous. There's never been a showing of TK not being instant. Your argument is so fallacious it's not even funny.
'Teh quote says the emperor's power can control anyone. So it can...even if other people can resist'There are no feats of the Emperor's mind control being instant either. So hurry up and concede.
It seemed pretty instant in the SWTOR game when Vitiate mind****ed the 4 jedi. You lost this argument pages ago.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
TK is instantaneous. There's never been a showing of TK not being instant.
I think you mean that the other way. There's very few showings of TK 8eing instantaneous. For example:
3.38
According to Wookieepedia:
'At more powerful levels, Force Push was the ability to create a telekinetic impulse via the Force, launching a concussive burst of pressurized air-not unlike the blast of an archaic 'pipe bomb'-that would impact a target with enough force to knock it over, launch it into the air, or even (particularly in the case of fragile materials such as ceramics) shatter it into pieces.'
Something tell me that isn't instant. :I
Plagueis also demonstrated non-instant TK with his Force Wave, which was descri8ed as moving around disintegrating his opponents.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
Your argument is so fallacious it's not even funny.
'Teh quote says the emperor's power can control anyone. So it can...even if other people can resist'There are no feats of the Emperor's mind control being instant either. So hurry up and concede.
Has there ever 8een a person who resisted without succum8ing to him?
The only thing I can think of is that it appears that those who have already fallen to him 8efore cannot do so agian, and that is merely my speculation.
Originally posted by NephthysI think you mean that the other way. There's very few showings of TK 8eing instantaneous. For example:
3.38
According to Wookieepedia:
'At more powerful levels, Force Push was the ability to create a telekinetic impulse via the Force, launching [b]a concussive burst of pressurized air
-not unlike the blast of an archaic 'pipe bomb'-that would impact a target with enough force to knock it over, launch it into the air, or even (particularly in the case of fragile materials such as ceramics) shatter it into pieces.'Something tell me that isn't instant. :I
Plagueis also demonstrated non-instant TK with his Force Wave, which was descri8ed as moving around disintegrating his opponents.
Instant is the wrong word. It's still faster than
Has there ever 8een a person who resisted without succum8ing to him?The only thing I can think of is that it appears that those who have already fallen to him 8efore cannot do so agian, and that is merely my speculation. [/B]
Uhh yeah a lot of people. Tol Braga didn't get turned until after the Emperor subdued him with Force Lightning. Neither did the knight.
Revan and Malak got turned but we again don't know how long it took. And controlling two Dark Jedi already brushing on knowledge of the Dark Side isn't impressive.
The Sith Lords on Nathema?
We don't know how long it took.
Revan Reborn?
Outright resisted for 300 years
Exile, Lord Scourge?
Also resisted.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Or he simply 8uilt a device that extracts secrets from people purely for the intellectual 8enefits. He had to do something in the 1000 years he was w8ing to invade the Repu8lic.
If he could control their mind, why would he need such a device to get information? Simply let them tell him their secret.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Or he simply 8uilt a device that extracts secrets from people purely for the intellectual 8enefits. He had to do something in the 1000 years he was w8ing to invade the Repu8lic.
And yet he could not extract a single bit of information from Revan for 300 years. Granted it was with the Exile's help, but 300 years ?
Originally posted by Slowpoke
If he could control their mind, why would he need such a device to get information? Simply let them tell him their secret.
Who says he needed it? Perhaps he 8uilt it 8ecause he has a ho88ie for inventing stuff.
Originally posted by Mizukage Yoda
And yet he could not extract a single bit of information from Revan for 300 years. Granted it was with the Exile's help, but 300 years ?
What's your point?