Darth Nihilus vs. Vitiate

Started by Nephthys12 pages

Well there is that quote that says that none can stand in his presence without succum8ing to him.

Personally I think Viti8s mental domination is too powerful for Nihilus to resist. Its kind of a quick-draw to see who can use their un8locka8le technique first.

Originally posted by franklinash299
Vitiate mind****ed many of the Jedi Order's most powerful, it doesn't seem to be an issue.

But he still needs to create the ravager to get information from other Sith Lords, so some of them can resist his will.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Well there is that quote that says that none can stand in his presence without succum8ing to him.

Personally I think Viti8s mental domination is too powerful for Nihilus to resist. Its kind of a quick-draw to see who can use their un8locka8le technique first.

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Originally posted by Nephthys
Well there is that quote that says that none can stand in his presence without succum8ing to him.

Personally I think Viti8s mental domination is too powerful for Nihilus to resist. Its kind of a quick-draw to see who can use their un8locka8le technique first.

Then why did he have to create the ravager?

I guess he can't read minds as easily as he domin8s them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
I guess he can't read minds as easily as he domin8s them.

If he can dominate anyone's mind, he can simply command them to talk what they know about.

Maybe thats why he locked it up in the Dark Temple. He was like 'Hey, why not just ask them? Man, making this thing was pretty dumb now that I think about it. I should kill everyone involved in making it. No-one must know how stupid I really am."

Originally posted by Nephthys
Maybe thats why he locked it up in the Dark Temple. He was like 'Hey, why not just ask them? Man, making this thing was pretty dumb now that I think about it. I should kill everyone involved in making it. No-one must know how stupid I really am."

He used it quite a few times before, unless he's stupid enough to forget his ability for that long, there sure was some individuals he could not break.

Also if he could dominate people's mind that easily he just have to go brainwash the chancellor and the Jedi council then the war would be won.

I do vaguely remember a mention of this technique in the Revan novel, where the ancient sith were afraid to use it because they would become slaves to it, and Vitiate discovered or rediscovered the technique.

Didn't he make it 8efore the time of Revan? Perhaps his mind powers were not as unshaka8le as they were 8y that time. He does have over 1000 years to develop after all.

Sure. He'll just walk up to them and oh wait I think we've hit a snag.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Didn't he make it 8efore the time of Revan? Perhaps his mind powers were not as unshaka8le as they were by that time. He does have over 1000 years to develop after all.

Sure. He'll just walk up to them and oh wait I think we've hit a snag.


There is no proof.

He just has to travel with the massive army and mind control everything there. Also when the Empire sacked Coruscant he could just go there and dominate everybody, most of the republic's governors were all there.

And he could just mind control the ambassador to make the treaty of Coruscant totally favor the Empire.

Originally posted by Slowpoke
There is no proof.

He just has to travel with the massive army and mind control everything there. Also when the Empire sacked Coruscant he could just go there and dominate everybody, most of the republic's governors were all there.

And he could just mind control the ambassador to make the treaty of Coruscant totally favor the Empire.

There is also no proof of anyone resisting his domin8ion. All I am hearing is a lot of specul8ion from you.

The Emperor would not risk himself in 8attle. Remem8er what happened to Revan? Speaking of, he was 8eing influenced 8y Revan at the time. He doesn't even care a8out the war that much. He is much more focused on his plan to consume the galaxy.

Does Nihilus really have the type of mind that is susceptible to being controlled? I mean, how do we know he has a consciousness even remotely similar to an average Force user at that point?

Originally posted by Nephthys
There is also no proof of anyone resisting his domin8ion. All I am hearing is a lot of specul8ion from you.

The Emperor would not risk himself in 8attle. Remem8er what happened to Revan? Speaking of, he was 8eing influenced 8y Revan at the time. He doesn't even care a8out the war that much. He is much more focused on his plan to consume the galaxy.

There is indirect proof that shows his mind control does not work on some people.

Why would he need to risk himself? He got the ability of essence transfer, even if his body was destroyed he could still easily make it.

No, the trailer clearly said he was not pleased that the council didn't bring the victory to him.

"Though he now controlled half the galaxy, the Sith Emperor grew impatient - "he had expected his triumph to come quickly.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I love the blatant reaching and utter butthurt that is involved in this thread, in a sad and lonely attempt to discredit Darth Nihilus.

This is what Unseen Unheard has to say on the subject. When Nihilus spoke, the world died. Any speculation of some amount of preparation, which is never even implied, is exactly that, unfounded speculation caused by a serious case of butthurt. It's an assumption with no evidence.

As for "hurhur contradiction a bond has to be formed in the game".

"It is a technique that is almost as old as the Sith themselves…it is a means of severing connections between life, the Force, and feeding upon the death it causes. It cannot be taught…it can only be gained through instinct, through experiencing its effects, first-hand." ¯Kreia

This is what Kreia has to say on the technique.

What Tempest was probably referring to is this:

"As much as one may use the Force to bolster the wills and strengths of others, the reverse is possible, though not often used. Instead of sending one's will through connections in the Force, instead such connections are drawn upon, fed upon, and drained completely."
¯Kreia

Which doesn't imply that Nihilus might need to, I dunno, become bestest buds with someone whom he has met in order to drain them. As proven by both Unseen Unheard and the game, by the destruction of Katarr.

Your intriguing combination of obvious agitation, use of a blatant strawman, and constant references to butthurt lead me to believe that your anus weeps as much as your eyes, witnessing the brutal death of your fragile hopes for Nihilus's supremacy.

Your anguish is most gratifying.

Did you or did you not state that the game says Nihilus needs to form a bond to use his power, yes or no?

Also, I could give a rat's dick if Vitiate beats Nihilus.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Did you or did you not state that the game says Nihilus needs to form a bond to use his power, yes or no?

no

Well, yes, kind of:

The_Tempest
According to the Jedi Masters (& Kreia as well, I believe), it is.
The_Tempest
If I recall correctly, Kreia claims that the technique requires a bond to be formed between the user and victim/s.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Also, I could give a rat's dick if Vitiate beats Nihilus.

NiggaWillard, please.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
Your intriguing combination of obvious agitation, use of a blatant strawman, and constant references to butthurt lead me to believe that your anus weeps as much as your eyes, witnessing the brutal death of your fragile hopes for Nihilus's supremacy.

Your anguish is most gratifying.

ROFL. My sentiments exactly.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
no

Well, yes, kind of:

NiggaWillard, please.

So the answer is yes.

I win. 💃

Originally posted by NemeBro
So the answer is yes.

Only if the question is: "Is NemeBro The_Tempest's b1tch?"

ha