Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Ozy puts his hand up in the path of a bullet because that's all he can do.Batman when encounter by people arming guns at him just disarms them
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Agility-Speed/Speed/gothamknights28-batsnatcher.jpgTwo automated sentries get the drop on Batman
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Agility-Speed/Speed/detective750-batsentryguns1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Agility-Speed/Speed/detective750-batsentryguns2.jpgThat's what Batman would have done though. She wouldn't have even fired on him in the first place.
But let's shit on that feat EVEN IF Ozy was able to catch the bullet if his hand wasn't in the way before it was fired.Batman is fast enough to dodge Composite Superman's HV, and deflect it with a ****ing mirror.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvsheatvision.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvsheatvision2.jpgDodges Superman's sneak attack HV
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batsupereflex.jpgFast enough to dodge a pissed Superman's punch from behind.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Agility-Speed/Speed/supermanbatman39-batvsuperpunch.jpgDodges a gun that can fire 5000 rounds per minute
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Agility-Speed/Gunfire/batconfidential15-batwrathgun1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Agility-Speed/Gunfire/batconfidential15-batwrathgun2.jpgBat teleports from one of the best shots in comics.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batsquadshot.jpgReacts to a sniper bullet at 1200 meters per second with his back turned only going off the feel of the air after it's fired. The only warning was the bullet being fired... a little different than SS calling Ozy an ass hole and letting him turn around no?
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batfreezesniper1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batfreezesniper2.jpgAnd that's not even the funniest thing. Batman literally punched a bullet out of the air.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/bat%20pics%202/004.jpgThis is nothing though. Batman has so many more feats that skeet all over Ozy putting his hand over the path of a bullet before it's fired that it'd be retarded on my part to include them.
If Batman was in Ozy's position, he would have kicked SS in the uterus before she could react. If he wanted to play with her, he would have easily dodged it, or even punched it out of the airBatman solos.
But in the light of things Ozy would beat batman 6-7/10 instead of my former 9-10/10.
Originally posted by h1a8
I saw many of those feats before though. Some of them can be debated against.
Catching a bullet with bare hands still trumps anything Batman has done IMO. There is no way Batman can achieve that with his bare hands.
Ozy hands being there in the trajectory doesn't too much take away from the level of timing, technique, strength, speed, and durability it took to achieve that with human hands. Any mistake and the bullet passes through the hands or bounces off the hand before one can close them.But in the light of things Ozy would beat batman 6-7/10 instead of my former 9-10/10.
So the guy who hurts meta level beings like Darkseid and Solomon Grundy with punches and kicks, isn't durable enough to catch a bullet? But the guy whose not as skilled, not as tough, not as fast, can? Riiiight. It all makes so much sense now.
Originally posted by h1a8All of those trump that. Jesus, how you can honestly state that Batman reacting to HV and bouncing it back at C Superman is a worse feat than putting your hand in front of a bullet is beyond me. In one feat, Batman reacted faster than automated turrets, or when he reacted faster than multiple thugs about to shoot a gun. Something that Ozy could only put his hand in the way against one attacker.
I saw many of those feats before though. Some of them can be debated against.
Catching a bullet with bare hands still trumps anything Batman has done IMO. There is no way Batman can achieve that with his bare hands.
Ozy hands being there in the trajectory doesn't too much take away from the level of timing, technique, strength, speed, and durability it took to achieve that with human hands. Any mistake and the bullet passes through the hands or bounces off the hand before one can close them.But in the light of things Ozy would beat batman 6-7/10 instead of my former 9-10/10.
And how exactly is putting your hands in the way of a bullet before it's fired beat punching a ****ing bullet out of the air with no marks on you? Catching a bullet by putting your hands in front of it before it's fired is a low end feat for Batman. Seriously, I just showed you him reacting to a sniper bullet after it was fired and he managed to throw batarangs in the same direction.
Batman is in his suit for this fight, so that's irrelevant. All it was was a good durability feat for Ozy. His hand was there before the bullet was fired. And since Batman is in his suit here, let's see which one is more durable:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/detective710-batvstroke2e.jpg
Oh right, Batman again.
Now, onto things that withstand things more powerful than bullets. Which really hurt Ozy btw.
Batman throws Dr Death through a reinforced door built to withstand cruise missiles.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmissiledoor1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmissiledoor2.jpg
A severely weakened and poisoned Batman almost breaks glass that's built to withstand multiple bazookas.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batbazooka6.jpg
Ozy would not survive those, and you're on the verge of being reported for trolling.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
PIS.He has never done it before, and hasn't done it since. As the forum goes by average showings, its obv a high end feat.
We have a winner. You are the first to make sense. The feat being PIS is a good argument. One that I can probably concede to, have to think about it though. IMO, I don't think any human should be able to do something like that. Fiction or not.
Originally posted by h1a8
We have a winner. You are the first to make sense. The feat being PIS is a good argument. One that I can probably concede to, have to think about it though. IMO, I don't think any human should be able to do something like that. Fiction or not.
The feat being PIS as been mentioned half a dozen times in this thread already...
Pay attention and stop embarrassing yourself.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
All of those trump that. Jesus, how you can honestly state that Batman reacting to HV and bouncing it back at C Superman is a worse feat than putting your hand in front of a bullet is beyond me. In one feat, Batman reacted faster than automated turrets, or when he reacted faster than multiple thugs about to shoot a gun. Something that Ozy could only put his hand in the way against one attacker.And how exactly is putting your hands in the way of a bullet before it's fired beat punching a ****ing bullet out of the air with no marks on you? Catching a bullet by putting your hands in front of it before it's fired is a low end feat for Batman. Seriously, I just showed you him reacting to a sniper bullet after it was fired and he managed to throw batarangs in the same direction.
Batman is in his suit for this fight, so that's irrelevant. All it was was a good durability feat for Ozy. His hand was there before the bullet was fired. And since Batman is in his suit here, let's see which one is more durable:
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/Good%20Showings/Martial%20Artists-Street%20Level%20Fighters/detective710-batvstroke2e.jpgOh right, Batman again.
Now, onto things that withstand things more powerful than bullets. Which really hurt Ozy btw.
Batman throws Dr Death through a reinforced door built to withstand cruise missiles.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmissiledoor1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batmissiledoor2.jpgA severely weakened and poisoned Batman almost breaks glass that's built to withstand multiple bazookas.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batbazooka6.jpgOzy would not survive those, and you're on the verge of being reported for trolling.
It takes more than putting your hand in the aim of the bullet to catch it. For starters how do you prevent the bullet from penetrating your hands like water? How do you manage to close your hands before the bullet bounces off your hands assuming you were able to prevent it from penetrating the hands?
I would be shocked as hell if I saw Batman or CA catch a bullet with their BARE HANDS.
Batman got hella good feats and most are impressive and prove his incredible skill. I just can't believe a human can catch a bullet though. Maybe the feat is PIS for Ozy. It's one of the most impressive things I ever saw from a mere human than wasn't unnaturally enhanced.
Lastly, reporting me for trolling will not work since I'm not trolling. You are offering subjective (not objective) reasoning of why Batman's feats outclass Ozy's. Some of Batman's feats are debatable like I said (been debated against by ODG, Shrank, and others for years) and some are PIS and yet some are legit.
IMO, it is more than believable that Ozy can do most (if not all) the things (non PIS things) Batman has done and yet Batman can't catch a bullet with his bare hands IMO. But Ozy may not be able to do the things Batman has done (I just said it was believable).
With that said, I accept that it may be PIS for Ozy and that Batman wins against him. Also I agree Batman has the strength to one or two shot Ozy (using highest feats).
This is my opinion though.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
The feat being PIS as been mentioned half a dozen times in this thread already...Pay attention and stop embarrassing yourself.
No it hasn't. If it has been mentioned it was definitely less than 6 times (half a dozen). I tried reading everyone's post but unfortunately I have to leave the thread sometimes. When I come back I don't always get the chance to read everyone's post.
Originally posted by h1a8That's why I called it a durability feat. Every single Batman feat I showed in my first post was way faster than Ozy's, and way more impressive.
It takes more than putting your hand in the aim of the bullet to catch it. For starters how do you prevent the bullet from penetrating your hands like water? How do you manage to close your hands before the bullet bounces off your hands assuming you were able to prevent it from penetrating the hands?I would be shocked as hell if I saw Batman or CA catch a bullet with their BARE HANDS.
Batman got hella good feats and most are impressive and prove his incredible skill. I just can't believe a human can catch a bullet though. Maybe the feat is PIS for Ozy. It's one of the most impressive things I ever saw from a mere human than wasn't unnaturally enhanced.Lastly, reporting me for trolling will not work since I'm not trolling. You are offering subjective (not objective) reasoning of why Batman's feats outclass Ozy's. Some of Batman's feats are debatable like I said (been debated against by ODG, Shrank, and others for years) and some are PIS and yet some are legit.
IMO, it is more than believable that Ozy can do most (if not all) the things (non PIS things) Batman has done and yet Batman can't catch a bullet with his bare hands IMO.
With that said, I accept that it may be PIS for Ozy and that Batman wins against him. Also I agree Batman has the strength to one or two shot Ozy (using highest feats).
This is my opinion though.
Batman is in his suit for this fight. A suit that can tank bullets. What he can do with his bare hands is irrelevant... and he still has feats without his suit way better than that.
You don't read comics, so I can see why you'd say that.
You're always trolling. And blatantly ignoring feats doesn't help your case, nor does making shit completely up.
I'm offering facts. If you don't think they are more impressive, then you are mindles... h1a8.
Ozy has no feats that show him being capable of Batman's street level feats.
Batman doesn't need to catch a bullet. Ozy however, needs everything to show he can contend with Batman.
This is hypocrisy. You are the one who has stated time and time again that you only use high feats. It doesn't matter if Ozy can withstand a bullet or not, Batman is suited here and bullets have been shown to bounce off of him, not to mention straight up dodge them.
Using the highest feats, Batman kills Ozy with a punch. Using average feats Batman one or two shots him. Using low feats Batman beats him after a semi tough battle. There is no Ozy having a chance here.
Honestly, Batman could solo here. Midnighter would boot both of their heads off. This thread is as lopsided as "Human" street fights get.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Besides, even if Batman does or does not beat Ozy...he DOES beat Comedian, right?And Midnighter beats both of them.
So in this thread...Midnighter/Batman win.
Actually I never disagreed that team 2 wins since I don't know much about Midnighter. I was merely discussing Ozy vs. Batman
