Originally posted by h1a8Please read comics before trying to debate.
Please read a person's post correctly before commenting. Thank you!I said catching a bullet from a mere human PROVES, not catching a bullet by a superhuman.
Spider-Man isn't even that much faster than the top MA's.
You also didn't prove how catching a bullet proves anything... at all. Especially when he put his hand in the way before it was fired.
You keep saying that extensive MA training is the only way to get that level of hand speed and hand-eye coordination, yet you've been unable to actually prove this.
I've posted hand speed and hand-eye coordination feats from people with no known MA skill, where are the feats proving that MA users are better in those areas?
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftWho caught the bullet and what comic was it?
How a real master of MA catches a bullet
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/12/immortalironfistannual0.jpg/How Ozymanpussy did it
http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/io9/2011/09/davegibbons.jpgOZY IS CLEARLY IRON FIST LEVEL OF MA!!!
If you want to talk about MA, how about factoring in Batman ass blasting whoever the shit he wants? Or on the topic of "speed", how about Midnighter kicking away tank shells, Batman dodging Superman attacks multiple times, or Batman straight up taking bullets to the face all non chalant. Hell, the guy walked out and got shot on purpose in the back so he could keep the
mythtruth of him being immortal alive. A bullet is a non factor at the Batman level.
Originally posted by iceman24567
👆 h1 keeps repeating the same thing without providing actual proof. Broken record thread should be closed since a decent case cant be made for team 1 lasting even 10 seconds here.
Lack of understanding proof =/= no proof
you fail to understand it and it's clearly simple.
Geez I'm not the smartest guy in the world but you guys disappoint me greatly with your sad ability to understand the logical.
Originally posted by Silent Master
You keep saying that extensive MA training is the only way to get that level of hand speed and hand-eye coordination, yet you've been unable to actually prove this.I've posted hand speed and hand-eye coordination feats from people with no known MA skill, where are the feats proving that MA users are better in those areas?
I don't have to prove it is the only way to achieve that level of ...
I have to prove it was the way Ozy acquired them.
Originally posted by h1a8No its plain as day that you lack actual proof that he possesses the level of MA skill you claim he does. Your lack of logic is sickening and its sad that you are still trying and failing miserably. It isnt out fault you are a utter failure 😬
Who caught the bullet and what comic was it?Lack of understanding proof =/= no proof
you fail to understand it and it's clearly simple.
Geez I'm not the smartest guy in the world but you guys disappoint me greatly with your sad ability to understand the logical.
Originally posted by Branlor SwiftLOL h1 screams we should use common sense but he couldnt even tell that the scan was Ironfist 😆
OZY IS CLEARLY IRON FIST LEVEL OF MA!!![b]immortalironfistannual0.jpg
Do you sit there looking at posts thinking of a way to look like Hellen Keller developed the ability to type? [/B]
Originally posted by h1a8
I don't have to prove it is the only way to achieve that level of ...
I have to prove it was the way Ozy acquired it.
Then by all means, prove that Ozy has A list MA skills, but keep in mind, that since you've already admitted that A list MA skill isn't needed to accquire the needed speed and coordination to catch a bullet, you can't use the bullet catch as proof of MA skill.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
OZY IS CLEARLY IRON FIST LEVEL OF MA!!![b]immortalironfistannual0.jpg
Do you sit there looking at posts thinking of a way to look like Hellen Keller developed the ability to type? [/B]
So that proves my point. Catching a bullet by a mere human implies great fighting skill. Iron Fist unfortunately isn't completely human but enhanced with power.
So IF could beat Ozy is highly reasonable.
Originally posted by h1a8Iron Fist caught the bullet without even seeing where it was fired from... with his back turned... from what seems like a rifle. That proves good speed.
So that proves my point. Catching a bullet by a mere human implies great fighting skill. Iron Fist unfortunately isn't completely human but enhanced with power.
So IF could beat Ozy is highly reasonable.
Ozy had his god damned hand over the bullets trajectory before it was fired.
IF would rape Ozy with one punch...
You also ignored Batman dodging Superman.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Then by all means, prove that Ozy has A list MA skills, but keep in mind, that since you've already admitted that A list MA skill isn't needed to accquire the needed speed and coordination to catch a bullet, you can't use the bullet catch as proof of MA skill.
I never admitted it and I strongly disagree. I clearly said I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT. Because it is irrelevant.
What I do have to prove is that Ozy acquired that ability to catch the bullet because of his incredible fighting ability.
The proof is simple
Clearly Ozy is a MA fighter as shown in comics.
Clearly there is no evidence of enhancements for him, so he is still 100% human.
Clearly he made a karate sound when performing the feat as the writer intended to show the reader his great MA skill.
Thus he caught the bullet as a residual of great fighting ability.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Iron Fist caught the bullet without even seeing where it was fired from... with his back turned... from what seems like a rifle. That proves good speed.Ozy had his god damned hand over the bullets trajectory before it was fired.
IF would rape Ozy with one punch...
You also ignored Batman dodging Superman.
Batman dodging Superman is irrelevant since either
1. Superman wasn't going faster than Batman can respond
or
2. It was PIS
Taking IF at his best then yes he can rape Ozy with one punch but taking his average then not so much (but he still can win).
Originally posted by h1a8
I never admitted it and I strongly disagree. I clearly said I DON'T HAVE TO PROVE IT. Because it is irrelevant.What I do have to prove is that Ozy acquired that ability to catch the bullet because of his incredible fighting ability.
The proof is simple
Clearly Ozy is a MA fighter as shown in comics.
Clearly there is no evidence of enhancements for him, so he is still 100% human.
Clearly he made a karate sound when performing the feat as the writer intended to show the reader his great MA skill.
Thus he caught the bullet as a residual of great fighting ability.
As I've already shown that the Elements needed to catch a bullet don't require extensive MA training to accquire, your argument is basically, "It takes extensive MA training to catch a bullet, because I say so".
Seeing as the bullet catch is being contested, do you have any other proof of Ozy's supposed A list fighting skill?
I'm not even sure why we are pretending it's a speed feat all to be honest. He jumped at this shooter, and his hands were already placed in the path of the bullet. It's aim catching... not bullet catching. The real question is why the bullet didn't go right through him (he's bleeding so it still broke the skin... which makes things even stupider). It's a durability feat more than anything.
The only logical thing is to ignore the example wholesale as PIS. Nothing Ozy ever did supports that he is bullet proof, bullet catcher... in fact there is plenty to contradict it.
