Am sure h1a8 will still downgrade it because he didn't use his own body to slow the bullets down, and instead blocked them with his bulletproof gloves.
Incidentally, he assumed Ozy's bullet was 300m/s when he caught it.
The sniper bullet Batman reacted to was....1200m/s. And he CLEARLY moved out of the way AFTER it was fired, unless new advancements in gun tech now means they announce their firing with a mini sonic boom....
Originally posted by h1a8Batman couldn't catch a bullet in his dreams.
O rly?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Yes it's downgraded for three reasons:
Am sure h1a8 will still downgrade it because he didn't use his own body to slow the bullets down, and instead blocked them with his bulletproof gloves.Incidentally, he assumed Ozy's bullet was 300m/s when he caught it.
The sniper bullet Batman reacted to was....1200m/s. And he CLEARLY moved out of the way AFTER it was fired, unless new advancements in gun tech now means they announce their firing with a mini sonic boom....
O rly?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Good feat, but still not good as catching a bullet since we don't know how fast kid flash was going. Many times characters don't use their top speed when fighting. Also since clearly Batman would be a statue to any flash we either must except PIS or assume kid flash was holding back a lot. Choose!
Oh, and a mind-controlled Batman still owns a (semi) bloodlusted Kid Flash. Who's attacking him from behind.http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll223/darknight2k/batvstitans2.jpg
Originally posted by DarkSaint85I used 300m/s yet Ozy was less than 4 times the distance away than Batman. Thus Ozy showed faster reaction times and speeds. Also we don't see how Batman dodged the chain fire. He could have simply aim dodged. Batman punching bullets from air is impressive but on as much as catching one without using bullet proof gloves. Catching something is much harder than blocking something. Plus Ozy was closer to his gunman than Batman was.Sniper bullet > handguns.
Chaingun > handguns
Punching bullets out of the air:
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But like I said, you assumed he had 3 ton strength based on a distance to stop of 1 inch.What if it was 2 inches? Then your strength estimation is halved. Which is quite likely.
So you can't say for certain that he has 3 ton level strength, right?
Of course, the fact that he bled and the bullet went into his hand, shows that a lot of the energy was soaked up by his hand.
Originally posted by Silent MasterIt's stated by me earlier and can be proven through physics.
Where is it stated that those feats require cl 3 strength?
Originally posted by Silent MasterOf course I do. It shows in the scan that it's between 0 and 1 inch. As you clearly see his hand stopped the bullet on impact (almost a dead stop). The fact that you don't see his hand go back any amount after impact proves it didn't (since these events Are fictional and never happened).
No, it can't...as you have no way of proving the stopping distance.
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course I do. It shows in the scan that it's between 0 and 1 inch. As you clearly see his hand stopped the bullet on impact (almost a dead stop). The fact that you don't see his hand go back any amount after impact proves it didn't (since these events Are fictional and never happened).
Prove that his hand didn't move when he stopped the bullet.
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course I do. It shows in the scan that it's between 0 and 1 inch. As you clearly see his hand stopped the bullet on impact (almost a dead stop). The fact that you don't see his hand go back any amount after impact proves it didn't (since these events Are fictional and never happened).
Dude... we have no f@cking idea what happened in between the panel where he caught the bullet and the panel where he is laid on the ground with both hands bleeding. How can you sit there and say such nonsense? You have no leg to stand on when you assert that his hands didn't recoil after the bullet's impact.
I want to know why you're trying to use the distance difference between a sniper round and a pistol round. A sniper round can go upwards of a mile, while a pistol only goes a few hundred feet to maybe a thousand or a little more. Sniper rounds also travel much faster than pistol rounds, it's like the difference between a jet and a car. Whose to say that sniper round didn't cover more distance just as fast or faster than the pistol? Because I guarantee it's a lot easier to dodge/catch a pistol round than it is a sniper shot.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Dude... we have no f@cking idea what happened in between the panel where he caught the bullet and the panel where he is laid on the ground with both hands bleeding. How can you sit there and say such nonsense? You have no leg to stand on when you assert that his hands didn't recoil after the bullet's impact.
Of course we do, he caught the bullet and stopped it dead as shown in the scan. It only takes less than .01 of a second for this to happen. Afterwards is irrelevant since the momentum of the bullet was completely stopped in the first scan.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Prove that his hand didn't move when he stopped the bullet.
The proof is in the scan. The bullet was shown to stop and not progress any further the moment it came in contact with his hand.
Originally posted by KingD19
I want to know why you're trying to use the distance difference between a sniper round and a pistol round. A sniper round can go upwards of a mile, while a pistol only goes a few hundred feet to maybe a thousand or a little more. Sniper rounds also travel much faster than pistol rounds, it's like the difference between a jet and a car. Whose to say that sniper round didn't cover more distance just as fast or faster than the pistol? Because I guarantee it's a lot easier to dodge/catch a pistol round than it is a sniper shot.
True but timing also depends on distance. If the sniper bullet is 4x the speed and 4x the distance as the pistol bullet then it is equivalent to dodging the pistol period.
Catching is far harder to do than dodging.
Originally posted by h1a8
Of course we do, he caught the bullet and stopped it dead as shown in the scan. It only takes less than .01 of a second for this to happen. Afterwards is irrelevant since the momentum of the bullet was completely stopped in the first scan.The proof is in the scan. The bullet was shown to stop and not progress any further the moment it came in contact with his hand.
Based on what exactly? You are looking at a snap shot, a single moment in time. Nothing about that adds any credence to your assertion that he stopped the bullet dead and robbed it off all momentum without any recoil in his arms. In actuality the fact that he got laid out on his ass and didn't ride the momentum of his jump and crash into Silk Specter suggest otherwise.
Jeez. Let's do this.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes it's downgraded for three reasons:
1. Distance was larger (more than 4x for the sniper)
2. Bulletproof gloves
3. Catching is harder (skill wise) than evading or blocking
All true, except:
1. Was the handgun bullet travelling at its max velocity? You cannot say that for certain. It could have been travelling at less than that.
2. So Ozy used his whole body PLUS his fleshy hand to stop the bullet.
3. Perhaps.
Good feat, but still not good as catching a bullet since we don't know how fast kid flash was going. Many times characters don't use their top speed when fighting. Also since clearly Batman would be a statue to any flash we either must except PIS or assume kid flash was holding back a lot. Choose!
I used 300m/s yet Ozy was less than 4 times the distance away than Batman. Thus Ozy showed faster reaction times and speeds.
Also we don't see how Batman dodged the chain fire. He could have simply aim dodged. Batman punching bullets from air is impressive but on as much as catching one without using bullet proof gloves. Catching something is much harder than blocking something. Plus Ozy was closer to his gunman than Batman was.
Ozy used his entire body to slow the bullet down:
Your vaunted calculations ignored the fact a lot of the kinetic energy was soaked up by Ozy's body, and the fact he used his fleshy hand to stop it. Also, where is this 1 inch that you can prove?
It's stated by me earlier and can be proven through physics. [/B]
Yeah but shit physics, and rubbish assumptions.
