Ozy/Comedian vs Midnighter/Batman

Started by DarkSaint8517 pages

Aim dodging...but Batman didn't know about it until after the gun was fired, no?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, but you don't know for certain Ozy didn't move his hands out to the side a further distance to slow the bullet down do you?
I do know because neither it nor any evidence of it wasn't shown and thus it doesn't exist. There is evidence of him stopping the bullet with his hands almost cold though because it appears that way from the scan.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Aim dodging...but Batman didn't know about it until after the gun was fired, no?
Which should inform you about how obvious it is that the sniper was aiming at Mr. Freeze the entire time and Batman couldn't do sh1t about it but take out the sniper after the fact... because "the bullet [is] too fast."

There is evidence of it shown, though.

When the bullet hits him, his hands are in front of him (as evidence d by the * at the end of his hiiya).

In the next panel, his hands are to his sides.

Therefore, after the bullet hit his hands, he moved them to the sides (and also spun a bit midair) to slow the bullet down.

@ODG: OK.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Aim dodging...but Batman didn't know about it until after the gun was fired, no?

He said at best it's aim dodging, which was being generous, because it's not aim dodging.

A sniper shot at Mister Freeze. The bullet hit Mister Freeze. Batman turned and knocked the shooter of the roof with some Batarangs with his internal narration directly stating that the shooter was too good, and that the bullet was too fast.

Not sure how any of that suggest that he dodged a sniper round after it was fired.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
He said at best it's aim dodging, which was being generous, because it's not aim dodging.

A sniper shot at Mister Freeze. The bullet hit Mister Freeze. Batman turned and knocked the shooter of the roof with some Batarangs with his internal narration directly stating that the shooter was too good, and that the bullet was too fast.

Not sure how any of that suggest that he dodged a sniper round after it was fired.

OK.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
There is evidence of it shown, though.

When the bullet hits him, his hands are in front of him (as evidence d by the * at the end of his hiiya).

In the next panel, his hands are to his sides.

Therefore, after the bullet hit his hands, he moved them to the sides (and also spun a bit midair) to slow the bullet down.

No, the bullet was already stopped relative to his hands in the panel. How he moves his hands afterward is irrelevant.

Nope, it wasn't shown that he stopped it by that one panel, or in the next.

In fact, the fact that his body spins a bit after the impact shows he can't have stopped it in that one panel you are referring to.

Originally posted by h1a8
No, the bullet was already stopped relative to his hands in the panel. How he moves his hands afterward is irrelevant.

All that panel shows is that the bullet connected with his closed hands. Anything else is an assumption you have drawn with no evidence to back it up.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
All that panel shows is that the bullet connected with his closed hands. Anything else is an assumption you have drawn with no evidence to back it up.

We see the motion of the bullet and yet no motion of the hand going back.

Originally posted by h1a8
We see the motion of the bullet and yet no motion of the hand going back.

We do see his body twisted backwards, though.

Originally posted by h1a8
We see the motion of the bullet and yet no motion of the hand going back.

You don't see the motion of the bullet, you see the muzzle flash of the gun. The movement of his hands would happen in between the panels represented on page.

Its a static representation of a whole series of images, h1. In the panel shown, Ozy catches the bullet. No one disputes that.

In the next, he is lying twisted away, with his arms by his side.

None of us are disputing he has the ability to catch the bullet, physical or skillwise.

What we are disputing is your arbitrary twisting of number application, and placing random numbers onto the sequence to bolster your case. You're trying to blind us with numbers, but the assumptions on which your calculations are based are very very shaky.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
You don't see the motion of the bullet, you see the muzzle flash of the gun. The movement of his hands would happen in between the panels represented on page.
Flashes don't operate as bullet trajectories in straight lines. Thus it was the bullet's motion shown.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Its a static representation of a whole series of images, h1. In the panel shown, Ozy catches the bullet. No one disputes that.

In the next, he is lying twisted away, with his arms by his side.

None of us are disputing he has the ability to catch the bullet, physical or skillwise.

What we are disputing is your arbitrary twisting of number application, and placing random numbers onto the sequence to bolster your case. You're trying to blind us with numbers, but the assumptions on which your calculations are based are very very shaky.

False, it is clear from the scan that he stopped the bullet less than 1inch stopping distance. Nothing is made up.

A bullet would simply pass through CA's or Batman's hand if they tried to catch it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Flashes don't operate as bullet trajectories in straight lines. Thus it was the bullet's motion shown.

Are you still trying to argue that he caught the bullet from behind as well?

Originally posted by h1a8
False, it is clear from the scan that he stopped the bullet less than 1inch stopping distance. Nothing is made up.

A bullet would simply pass through CA's or Batman's hand if they tried to catch it.

So his body being hit in midair, and its subsequent twisting from the impact to slow the bullet down, plus the fact that a lot of energy was absorbed by his flesh as the bullet penetrated his palm...you're not taking that into account?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So his body being hit in midair, and its subsequent twisting from the impact to slow the bullet down, plus the fact that a lot of energy was absorbed by his flesh as the bullet penetrated his palm...you're not taking that into account?

Of course not. That takes away from the feat. 😉