Wolverine vs Samurai Jack

Started by srankmissingnin24 pages

Originally posted by Robtard
Ah, you did say "relative", my error, but you're still wrong so I don't know why you're faceplaming, you need to be right to be able to facepalm. Samurai Jack's universe (the future) is highly advanced. Space travel, time travel, cyborgs, laser weapons etc.

Now you're downplaying the robots "indestructible" aspect. They were cut by:

Not as technologically advanced as Marvel Earth, never mind the rest of the Universe. On top of that there is the VAST difference in the power of the beings that reside in these Universes. I mean... just look at the difference between Marvel Odin, and Jack's Odin.

Wolverine has matched blades with dozens of magic swords, and Adamantium has tanked attacks from real gods, with actual feats, and it's still fine.

Originally posted by mastagambit
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I hate to tell you this but as soon as someone destructs something indestructible it is no longer indestructible 😛

It means there is a limit to what it can take. The question then becomes is tougher than Wolverine's version of adamantium, so feat wise I would side with Wolverine on that.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Not as technologically advanced as Marvel Earth, never mind the rest of the Universe. On top of that there is the VAST difference in the power of the beings that reside in these Universes. I mean... just look at the difference between Marvel Odin, and Jack's Odin.

Wolverine has matched blades with dozens of magic swords, and Adamantium has tanked attacks from real gods, with actual feats, and it's still fine.

About equal with Marvel Earth, if we're in 616, imo. I'm not arguing that superior beings don't exist in Marvel.

That's a proper counter to Wolverine being immune to Jack's magical diety amped attack. Not your former 'indestructible means' argument. IMO, Odin Force charged Thor only slightly denting adamantium is the one to go with.

Originally posted by Newjak
I hate to tell you this but as soon as someone destructs something indestructible it is no longer indestructible 😛

It means there is a limit to what it can take. The question then becomes is tougher than Wolverine's version of adamantium, so feat wise I would side with Wolverine on that.

If I go by what you are saying then Wolvie's skeleton is not indestructible right?
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Quick question to anyone who has the answer. How did the sword cut sabretooths head off? Can it cut adamantium or did sabretooth not have the adamantium?

Originally posted by Robtard
Not all dieties are equal in even their own universe. What we do know though is that Jack's magical blade further amped by magic can cut through "indestructible" material.

I'm not even arguing who wins at this point. I'm arguing the silly "indestructible means something else when I need it to" angle.

Without feats to back it up, it's empty rhetoric. Adamantium is indestructible. It has a long and impressive resume. The so called "indestructible" robots in Jack's Universe have no feats... and they were destroyed, showing that they actually are destructible.

It's not complicated. Adamantium has feats. The durability of these robots is completely speculative. Originally Jack wasn't strong enough to cut them, then he got a robot arm and had no trouble cutting them... how does that compare to Adamantium?

I just re-watched the episode... they were never even said to be indestructible. facepalm

Originally posted by Blight
Quick question to anyone who has the answer. How did the sword cut sabretooths head off? Can it cut adamantium or did sabretooth not have the adamantium?

Sabretooth didn't (and still doesn't) have Adamantium at the time, and it was just a clone in the first place.

Originally posted by Blight
Quick question to anyone who has the answer. How did the sword cut sabretooths head off? Can it cut adamantium or did sabretooth not have the adamantium?

I think that Murumasa blade thingy cut his head off.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Without feats to back it up, it's empty rhetoric. Adamantium is indestructible. It has a long and impressive resume. The so called "indestructible" robots in Jack's Universe have no feats... and they were destroyed, showing that they actually are destructible.

It's not complicated. Adamantium has feats. The durability of these robots is completely speculative. Originally Jack wasn't strong enough to cut them, then he got a robot arm and had no trouble cutting them... how does that compare to Adamantium?

I just re-watched the episode... they were never even said to be indestructible. facepalm


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Originally posted by mastagambit
I think that Murumasa blade thingy cut his head off.

Srank answered the question. So the muramasa has no feat of cutting adamantium. It can only negate a healing factor, that is all.

Originally posted by Robtard
About equal with Marvel Earth, if we're in 616, imo. I'm not arguing that superior beings don't exist in Marvel.

That's a proper counter to Wolverine being immune to Jack's magical diety amped attack. Not your former 'indestructible means' argument. IMO, Odin Force charged Thor only slightly denting adamantium is the one to go with.

A single Iron Man armor is more advanced than anything in the Jack U... and that isn't the craziest thing on 616 Marvel Earth by a long shot. Doop has an ultimate nullifier sitting on his desk. Stark, Doom, Richards, Banner... those guys think up things Jack's universe couldn't comprehended while they are talking a piss in the morning.

Ignoring the fact that I've already mentioned that, the differences in the indestructibility of the two items is of paramount importance. Ignoring the fact that those robots were never actually stated to be indestructible, and pretending for a moment that they were... they were never tested against the same forces that Adamantium has been. Those forces don't even exist in that Universe. How could you justify pretending that both metals are anywhere close to even?

How many more things are you Jack fans going to lie about in the course of this thread? I'm just curious.

8.

No wait 5!

Thanks for the heads up Neph.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How many more things are you Jack fans going to lie about in the course of this thread? I'm just curious.
I don't think they intentionally lied. Probably just remembered it wrong.

Originally posted by Blight
I don't think they intentionally lied. Probably just remembered it wrong.

They seem to misremember a lot, because there has already been four or five completely fabricated accounts of Jack's exploits, and that's just on the example's I've bother to verify.

It should be pretty clear to all but the most stubborn Jack fanboy that Wolverine wins by now.

Maybe when nemebro gets back he will have more to refute the Wolverine bullet feats.

I do find it rather funny that the disproven theories were argued so vehemently without fact checking first.

Originally posted by srankmissingnin

I just re-watched the episode... they were never even said to be indestructible. facepalm

I know I've seen it, as I've watched every episode of SJ, but that was once and years ago.

I must be remembering it wrong, but again, my argument was beyond just the robots.

I dunno srank. Jack definitely seems like the physical superior to me. And if its a question of healing factor, well, he can 8e rendered unconscious. Deadpool was a8le to drop him with a 8ullet to the 8ase of the jaw as I recall.

Originally posted by Robtard
I know I've seen it, as I've watched every episode of SJ, but that was once and years ago.

I must be remembering it wrong, but again, my argument was beyond just the robots.


You were still wrong. By your accounts that would make hulk ACTUALLY the strongest one there is. We don't just take what an author says at face value... That would be stupid. We take feats the author puts in.