Originally posted by Nephthys
I dunno srank. Jack definitely seems like the physical superior to me. And if its a question of healing factor, well, he can 8e rendered unconscious. Deadpool was a8le to drop him with a 8ullet to the 8ase of the jaw as I recall.
Wolverine's been knocked out many a time and it's inconsistent, as he's taken punches from the Hulk and not been KO'd.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I dunno srank. Jack definitely seems like the physical superior to me. And if its a question of healing factor, well, he can 8e rendered unconscious. Deadpool was a8le to drop him with a 8ullet to the 8ase of the jaw as I recall.
After a lengthy fight were Wolverine took tons of damage from multiple sources including explosions. Not to mention he purposely took a dive to draw out Daken, and that was Wayverine, a very poorly written incarnation of Wolverine with an incredibly weak healing factor compared to Wolverine's typical portrayal.
Jack might be a tad stronger than Logan, but Wolverine is certainly faster and more skilled than Jack, and based on the average portrayal of Wolverine's healing factor, there is nothing Jack could do to put him down for a ten count.
Originally posted by Robtard
I know I've seen it, as I've watched every episode of SJ, but that was once and years ago.I must be remembering it wrong, but again, my argument was beyond just the robots.
No worries I wasn't talking about you. You weren't the one who initially brought the issue up, you just went along with the assertions of the initial poster, just like I did, assuming that they knew what they were talking about... but they didn't.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
How many more things are you Jack fans going to lie about in the course of this thread? I'm just curious.
Generalizing isn't very nice.
In any case, the speed issue is still in question here, and I don't think skill was ever resolved, either. With the bounty hunter, bullet, and missile feats, Jack and Wolverine seem near equal, if anything.
He is one of the most skilled fighters on Marvel earth, on par with (or above according to Wolverine's own estimation) Captain America. He has beaten Shang-Chi effortlessly in a three panels. He's had Daredevil helpless in a full nelson in two panels after being ambushed. Defeated Iron Fist in an exhibition match. Successfully implemented a potentially fatal pressure point attack in a fight with Captain America. Held his own and ultimately defeated Gamora. He's even managed to briefly stalemate Stick in martial combat.
This is pretty much just a list of names which mean very little to me. Jack has performed Captain America-like maneuvers with shields before, for example, occasionally throwing them through robots, though I don't recall if the shields bounced back. I do not know who Shang-Chi is. Jack has dodged a rain of arrows blindfolded and has trained to fight by sound alone, which is Daredevil-esque as far as I know. Jack's trained in martial arts monasteries in China and Japan, as well as Greece for wrestling, and is a master of hand-to-hand, somewhat like Iron Fist. No pressure point training, though, and I'm unfamiliar with Gamora and Stick.
Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.
Originally posted by The Scenario
Generalizing isn't very nice.In any case, the speed issue is still in question here, and I don't think skill was ever resolved, either. With the bounty hunter, bullet, and missile feats, Jack and Wolverine seem near equal, if anything.
This is pretty much just a list of names which mean very little to me. Jack has performed Captain America-like maneuvers with shields before, for example, occasionally throwing them through robots, though I don't recall if the shields bounced back. I do not know who Shang-Chi is. Jack has dodged a rain of arrows blindfolded and has trained to fight by sound alone, which is Daredevil-esque as far as I know. Jack's trained in martial arts monasteries in China and Japan, as well as Greece for wrestling, and is a master of hand-to-hand, somewhat like Iron Fist. No pressure point training, though, and I'm unfamiliar with Gamora and Stick.
Feel free to tell me how wrong I am.
It's warranted, the majority of Jack supports in this thread are just making things up to suit their confirmation bias.
None of those speed feats are the equal of Wolverine's... so how there still a question as to who is faster?
Wolverine fights names. Skilled fighters who have established their skills as fighters over lengthy careers, also fighting the best of the best. We can look at all Wolverine's opponents and look at what they've actually actually accomplished as fighters, who they've fought and how well they did, and then use that information to formulate an opinion of their skill. Concrete credentials. When Wolverine easily beats Shang-Chi (think Iron Fist, but more skilled and minus the iron fist) that means something because we can look at Shang-Chi and see what he's done. The best thing anyone who has every fought Samurai Jack has done... is fight Samurai Jack. What are we supposed to conclude from that? That may seem a little unfair to Jack because is from a much more confined and less developed franchise... but that's how the game goes. Burden of proof and that jazz. Virtually every street level fighter in comics has been around the world and trained in countless fighting styles, that isn't in and off it and off itself to give Jack the benefit of the doubt and assume he is as skilled as Wolverine.
If you don't know who those characters I mentioned are, take a few seconds and google them.
Originally posted by Blight
Srank answered the question. So the muramasa has no feat of cutting adamantium. It can only negate a healing factor, that is all.
Never said it could cut adamantium.
And if that blade can slow wolvies healing factor,there is no telling what a chi charged blade blessed by the Gods can do to him.
I stand by that.
Originally posted by srankmissingnin
facepalmThe muramasa blade was forged by an immortal demon swordsmith with portion of Wolverine's soul the express purpose of killing people with healing factors.
Up to this point,you do not know what that powered up chi charged slash can do.
As I said in my first post,what if Jack caught Wolverine with that slash.
You cannot tell me that nothing will happen.
I stand by that.
Originally posted by mastagambit
Up to this point,you do not know what that powered up chi charged slash can do.
As I said in my first post,what if Jack caught Wolverine with that slash.
You cannot tell me that nothing will happen.
I stand by that.
What I know is that based on what that slash was shown to do, compared to Wolverine's entire history, Jack's charged slash will do absolutely nothing.
Jack was slicing through those robots with his robo arm before the battery died. Their durability was shit. The amped slash replicated the same feat. It's a nothing feat, you sad, sad, sad ignorant fanboy.
Originally posted by mastagambit
Jack powered up to defeat the last robot which was like a super tough version than the other. His super charged slash destroyed it. And you are telling me its a weak feat and wont do anything? And you call me ignorant? Okay then..
Jesus, why don't you make up some more bullshit? Seriously, is being a liar a prerequisite for being a Samurai Jack fanboy?
It wasn't a more powerful, super tough version of the other robots. It was the EXACT. SAME. AS. ALL. THE. REST. Jack's charged slashed destroyed it? Woopty doo. There weren't even that durable! Jack punched through them with his robot arm. HELL ONE OF THEM WAS EVEN DESTROYED BY GUN FIRE.
It's a weak ass nothing feat no mater what fairy tales you tell yourself to try and sell this on this bullshit.
Jesus Christ. Commit seppuku, it's the only way to redeem your honor after the mind numbing level of stupidity in your posts.
You need to calm down before you get a stroke.lol The last robot was different from the others. Jack had to power up to destroy it. We are talking about the last robot. Key word LAST.It was more powerful than the others. Key word more powerful. Or rather tougher. Thus Jack had to POWER up to destroy it.Key word power up. You still cant tell me what will happen if the hairball gets that attack. My money is on Jack slicing him like a turkey. The blade got blessed and will deal damage.
Based on the fact that wolverines bones have taken hits from magical items in the past... Given that its taken nuclear explosions in the past... Based on the fact that the robot that was sliced by a blessed sword has zero feats other than "it couldn't be cut before"... I can say with certainty that the sword will cut all the way until it reaches wolverines bone, once that happens it will clang and stop. This is simple logic.
The burden of proof is on you that the sword would effect his bones at all.
Originally posted by mastagambit
You need to calm down before you get a stroke.lol The last robot was different from the others. Jack had to power up to destroy it. We are talking about the last robot. Key word LAST.It was more powerful than the others. Key word more powerful. Or rather tougher. Thus Jack had to POWER up to destroy it.Key word power up. You still cant tell me what will happen if the hairball gets that attack. My money is on Jack slicing him like a turkey. The blade got blessed and will deal damage.
The last robot was the exact same as all the other robots. There was nothing special, it survived longer than the others by shear happenstance. It could have easily been any of the others. It was not tougher or more powerful. Jack had to power up to destroy it because his robo arm ran out of juice... that's it.
Originally posted by mastagambit
All I ever wanted from the start is for a logical answer as to what will happen it wolvie get that super charged slash. Telling me it wont do anything, that is ignorant.
The same thing that happens to Wolverine when he gets slashed by any sword. That's it. Inconsequential damage he will heal from instantly.
It takes more than cutting up a robot that wasn't even bullet proof, to destroy adamantium.