If you look at the entire Watcher race's history and what they've consistently shown on panel, it's clear Uatu holds the edge over Surtur, especially Twilight Sword-less.
Unless you think the Quasar and Rulk feats invalidate much more consistent showings of them across the board. Which would be...a unique perspective.
Admittedly, I used to give Odin the win over Uatu. He certainly has crazy high end feats of his own, but given what their race is shown of doing without much exertion, I'd likely change my mind. Celestials didn't give a shit about Odin and the skyfathers. They actually felt the Watchers were a threat to them.
Their on panel feats is what gives them their station.
On panel they have:
-Survived galaxies and universes being destroyed virtually unscathed.
-Battled Galactus
-Forced the Celestials to prep in order to take them on
-Manipulated space and time on a whim to ridiculous levels
-Brought themselves back to life simply by willing it
-No sold Molecule Man
So yes, my opinion is backed by multiple examples of them doing crazy shit spread throughout the decades.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankclassic juggernaut can easily do all of those you listed
Their on panel feats is what gives them their station.On panel they have:
-Survived galaxies and universes being destroyed virtually unscathed.
-Battled Galactus
-Forced the Celestials to prep in order to take them on
-Manipulated space and time on a whim to ridiculous levels
-Brought themselves back to life simply by willing it
-No sold Molecule Man
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Their on panel feats is what gives them their stationOn panel they have:
-Survived galaxies and universes being destroyed virtually unscathed.
-Battled Galactus
-Forced the Celestials to prep in order to take them on
-Manipulated space and time on a whim to ridiculous levels
-Brought themselves back to life simply by willing it
-No sold Molecule ManSo yes, my opinion is backed by multiple examples of them doing crazy shit spread throughout the decades.
I'm sorry, but if that's the best that you have. . .Well, let's just get this over with.:
-Surtur destroys a galaxy all by his lonesome and Odin during his fight with Seth destroyed countless Galaxies. Oh, he also shook the entire Marvel U.
-Thor has pushed back Galactus before.
-Odin ripped the universe apart during his fight with Forsung the enchanter. Only to have it restored it to it's former state on his whim.
-Odin has resurrected a race of billions
-Thor's Absorbed the entire force of the Null bomb with his hammer. Said bomb had enough power to destroy a galaxy.
He also contained the force of the Life Bomb which could destroy 1/5 of the universe.
I could go on.
Originally posted by Classic NES
I'm sorry, but if that's the best that you have. . .Well, let's just get this over with.:-Surtur destroys a galaxy all by his lonesome and Odin during his fight with Seth destroyed countless Galaxies. Oh, he also shook the entire Marvel U.
-Thor has pushed back Galactus before.
-Odin ripped the universe apart during his fight with Forsung the enchanter. Only to have it restored it to it's former state on his whim.
-Odin has resurrected a race of billions
-Thor's Absorbed the entire force of the Null bomb with his hammer. Said bomb had enough power to destroy a galaxy.
He also contained the force of the Life Bomb[B] which could destroy 1/5 of the universe.I could go on. [/B]
Originally posted by Classic NES
I'm sorry, but if that's the best that you have. . .Well, let's just get this over with.:-Surtur destroys a galaxy all by his lonesome and Odin during his fight with Seth destroyed countless Galaxies. Oh, he also shook the entire Marvel U.
-Thor has pushed back Galactus before.
-Odin ripped the universe apart during his fight with Forsung the enchanter. Only to have it restored it to it's former state on his whim.
-Odin has resurrected a race of billions
-Thor's Absorbed the entire force of the Null bomb with his hammer. Said bomb had enough power to destroy a galaxy.
He also absorbed the force of the Life Bomb[B] which could destroy 1/5 of the universe.I could go on. [/B]
-He destroyed a Galaxy via forging Twilight, yes. Odin destroying countless galaxies and effecting every plane of reality is a great feat, not disputing it. Uatu has likewise battled across infinite rivers of reality on panel.
-Thor can stagger, harm, and potentially kill a weakened Galactus. He can't stalemate Galactus straight up until the universe dies.
-Uatu could have undid the Magus' machinations of universal manipulation if he felt inclined.
-Watchers ressurect themselves as life and death aren't "absolute" as it is for most races.
-Watchers just tank universes exploding without the need for massive absorbing capabilities. Or they warp what they need to. Or create them.
You could go on listing more Thor/Odin feats that I'm already aware of. So could I.
In any case, Uatu is clearly and irrevocably beyond Thor. Hope that's put to rest.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
-He destroyed a Galaxy via forging Twilight, yes. Odin destroying countless galaxies and effecting every plane of reality is a great feat, not disputing it. Uatu has likewise battled across infinite rivers of reality on panel.-Thor can stagger, harm, and potentially kill a weakened Galactus. He can't stalemate Galactus straight up until the universe dies.
-Uatu could have undid the Magus' machinations of universal manipulation if he felt inclined.
-Watchers ressurect themselves as life and death aren't "absolute" as it is for most races.
-Watchers just tank universes exploding without the need for massive absorbing capabilities. Or they warp what they need to. Or create them.
You could go on listing more Thor/Odin feats that I'm already aware of. So could I.
In any case, Uatu is clearly and irrevocably beyond Thor. Hope that's put to rest.