This is admittedly pretty damn impressive and makes Satale Shan look like a mewling infant in comparison:
Coruscant Nights: Street of Shadows
"Instead of following up his first move with a direct assault, however, Vader did something completely unexpected. He just stood there, ignoring her as casually as if she didn't exist. As she stared, he inspected her lightsaber thoughtfully; then, holding it out at arm's length, he reactivated it. The crimson spire of destructive energy pointed straight up from his gloved fist. At first, nothing seemed to be happening. Then Sing realized that the shaft was getting brighter. Its brilliance intensified until she had to raise a hand to shield her eyes from the all-but-blinding scarlet radiance. The refulgence dazzled her eyes, overwhelming everything else; the street, the buildings, the wrecked landspeeder. Only Vader remained somehow visible; standing there, holding the weapon easily, seemingly unaffected by the blade's terrible radiance. The familiar deep hum that was the weapon's identifying sound rose in pitch, higher and higher, until it tore at her hearing. And then, in a final burst of screaming incandescence, the lightsaber's shaft vanished.
Sing stared in sheer disbelief. Her eyes were capable of adapting much more rapidly to changes in ambient light than were a human's. A couple of blinks and the afterimages cleared, normal vision returning almost immediately. Vader stood motionless, the weapon's hilt still gripped in his outstretched fist. She could see a tiny wisp of smoke curling from the emitter.
He had overloaded the lightsaber's energy crystal through the Force. Sing prided herself on her knowledge of weaponry and their individual strengths and weaknesses. It was her profession, after all. But she had never seen or heard of such a thing before.
The Dark Lord opened his hand. Reduced to a cylinder of useless metal, composites, and components, the now harmless weapon clattered onto the pavement."
Originally posted by Nephthys
She barely blocked a lightsaber, he pwned the shit out of one. Casually.
Vader caused a lightsaber's crystal to explode. I don't get the impression of him blocking a lightsaber strike. This feat is different from that of Satele's.
Originally posted by Nephthys
She blocked the blade, he pumped in so much energy that it light up like a sun and overloaded. Thats insanely more power than it would take to just block the blade.
What Vader did is very different in contrast. He didn't had to stop a lightsaber strike; he caused its crystal to explode. Vader's feat is impressive in its own right but you cannot use this to discredit Satele's feat which is of entirely different nature and also far from being common.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I can and I will.
Originally posted by Nephthys What Vader did was on another scale that what Shan did. Plus, didn't she absorb the energy?
By the by, EU!Sidious disintegrated a lightsaber on Byss. There's no reason to think he could necessarily replicate that feat elsewhere.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Vaders never disintegrated anything with a wave of his hand. And he can't even use lightning.
I'm not sure why disintegration is being held as the standard for beating Marek. Unlike Plagueis and Marek, Bane has [to my knowledge] never been proven to be capable of disintegrating objects without orbalisks or some other form of dark side enhancement.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
If you are considering the intensity of the explosion of the crystal to fellate Vader's feat then keep in mind that the explosion part is (superficially) impressive due to the cystal's own energy which got released in the process.
The lightsabers energy output was clearly increased many times over.
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD
His feat is DIFFERENT in nature. Have Vader ever blocked a lightsaber with bare hands? Satele Shan bended and/or absorbed the freaking blade itself, which would have cut through most opponents in her place.
She didn't bend it. And it being different means nothing. In terms of power it is far more impressive. No need to get so defensive.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
By the by, EU!Sidious disintegrated a lightsaber on Byss. There's no reason to think he could necessarily replicate that feat elsewhere.
I can't really remember that much, but weren't they on a a ship circling Byss? Can a nexus extend into space?
Originally posted by The_Tempest
I'm not sure why disintegration is being held as the standard for beating Marek.
I'm not sure why you thought it was. All I ever said was that Bane has shown more focused devastation than Marek. Not that he would actually beat him.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Unlike Plagueis and Marek, Bane has [to my knowledge] never been proven to be capable of disintegrating objects without orbalisks or some other form of dark side enhancement.
He disintegrated dozens of technobeasts at the same time. Of course he's capable of disintegration without them, the orbalisks don't boost him that much.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
By the by, EU!Sidious disintegrated a lightsaber on Byss. There's no reason to think he could necessarily replicate that feat elsewhere.I'm not sure why disintegration is being held as the standard for beating Marek. Unlike Plagueis and Marek, Bane has [to my knowledge] never been proven to be capable of disintegrating objects without orbalisks or some other form of dark side enhancement.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I can't really remember that much, but weren't they on a a ship circling Byss?
No, they were on Byss, in the Imperial Citadel.
Originally posted by Nephthys
Can a nexus extend into space?
A nexus can exist in space: Palpatine's death left one in orbit over Endor. As to whether or not planet nexuses extend to the surrounding space, I'm not sure.
Originally posted by Nephthys
I'm not sure why you thought it was. All I ever said was that Bane has shown more focused devastation than Marek. Not that he would actually beat him.
Again, Vader's mastery exceeded Marek's as well but he still lost both fights.
Originally posted by Nephthys
He disintegrated dozens of technobeasts at the same time. Of course he's capable of disintegration without them, the orbalisks don't boost him [b]that much. [/B]
According to whom?
Ascendancy
He did so to the Force-sensitives atop Nadd's temple. There was nothing left of them.
Nadd's temple sounds like a dark side nexus. Which book and chapter/page?
Originally posted by Nephthys
The lightsabers energy output was clearly increased many times over.
Originally posted by Nephthys
She didn't bend it. And it being different means nothing. In terms of power it is far more impressive. No need to get so defensive.
And can you establish that it takes more power to destroy a crystal then to prevent a lightsaber blade penetration?
Your statement: "In terms of power it is far more impressive" - seems to be baseless.
And when comparing feats; difference actually matters. Satele's feat is different from that of Vader and is impressive in its own right.
Both feats are impressive to me but comparing them in the manner as you did makes no sense.
Originally posted by Nephthys
This is admittedly pretty damn impressive and makes Satale Shan look like a mewling infant in comparison:Coruscant Nights: Street of Shadows
"Instead of following up his first move with a direct assault, however, Vader did something completely unexpected. He just stood there, ignoring her as casually as if she didn't exist. As she stared, he inspected her lightsaber thoughtfully; then, holding it out at arm's length, he reactivated it. The crimson spire of destructive energy pointed straight up from his gloved fist. At first, nothing seemed to be happening. Then Sing realized that the shaft was getting brighter. Its brilliance intensified until she had to raise a hand to shield her eyes from the all-but-blinding scarlet radiance. The refulgence dazzled her eyes, overwhelming everything else; the street, the buildings, the wrecked landspeeder. Only Vader remained somehow visible; standing there, holding the weapon easily, seemingly unaffected by the blade's terrible radiance. The familiar deep hum that was the weapon's identifying sound rose in pitch, higher and higher, until it tore at her hearing. And then, in a final burst of screaming incandescence, the lightsaber's shaft vanished.Sing stared in sheer disbelief. Her eyes were capable of adapting much more rapidly to changes in ambient light than were a human's. A couple of blinks and the afterimages cleared, normal vision returning almost immediately. Vader stood motionless, the weapon's hilt still gripped in his outstretched fist. She could see a tiny wisp of smoke curling from the emitter.
He had overloaded the lightsaber's energy crystal through the Force. Sing prided herself on her knowledge of weaponry and their individual strengths and weaknesses. It was her profession, after all. But she had never seen or heard of such a thing before.
The Dark Lord opened his hand. Reduced to a cylinder of useless metal, composites, and components, the now harmless weapon clattered onto the pavement."
Man, my Vader fanboyism is reactivated.
Originally posted by The_TempestNadd's temple sounds like a dark side nexus. Which book and chapter/page?
Originally posted by Ascendancy
My bad, it's Andeddu's Temple. Dynasty of Evil. I don't have the page numbers though. It doesn't explain exactly what the technique is, but it's different than a standard Force Wave, as it's a sustained orb of darkside energy rather than a quick blast.
Ok, yeah, I've read that excerpt. The text notes that Bane drew upon the energy of Andeddu's temple, meaning that such a display is not attributable to his powers alone.