Disney acquires Lucasfilm; Episode VII proposed for 2015

Originally posted by queeq
I think the PT had a bunch of talented actors (McGregor, Neeson, Lee, McDiarmid, Jackson, Oz)... it also requires a good, well crafted story and ditto script and a director who does not only have a vision for the final product (which Lucas certainly had) but also for a way to make that work with the actors, considering the amount of CGI (or the choice for a certain amount of CGI).

The PT had a great pool of actors, had decent acting, and a really great story. I think the acting is the area that could stand the most improvement from any Star Wars film. Some portions are great and some are not. A different group of people and a decent director may give us a better acting performance than the PT and OT.

Then again, maybe not. But, honestly, most people didn't watch the movies for their Oscar-levels of acting.

Originally posted by queeq
I think the PT had a bunch of talented actors (McGregor, Neeson, Lee, McDiarmid, Jackson, Oz).

wow thats more than you can count on one hand!

Originally posted by focus4chumps
wow thats more than you can count on one hand!

Talent pool is decent in the OT:

Ford
James Earl Jones
Ian McDiarmid
Alec Guinness
Peter Cushing

I'm all tapped out. That's the only notable I could think of. But I did enjoy all of their acting.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Talent pool is decent in the OT:

Ford
James Earl Jones
Ian McDiarmid
Alec Guinness
Peter Cushing

I'm all tapped out. That's the only notable I could think of. But I did enjoy all of their acting.

mark hammil
carrie fisher
anthony daniels
frank oz
billy dee williams

-annoyingly bad actors, as charming as an ear infection:

PT:

jake loyde
hayden chritiensen
Temuera Morrison (jango fett)
Ahmed Best (jarjar)
Daniel Logan(boba fett)
Silas Carson (nute gunray)

OT:

?

-admirable to supremely talented actors wasted with awful scripting:

PT:

brian blessed
samuel l jackson
Natalie Portman
Jimmy Smits
Terence Stamp

OT:

?

-secondary actors who's talent and/or scripting made them about as interesting as watching flies eat dog poop:

PT: all of them

OT: ?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
mark hammil
carrie fisher
anthony daniels
frank oz
billy dee williams

None of the above. Mark Hammil did not come into his own until he did Joker's voice. But other than that, neg on your list.

I'll give you Samuel L. Jackson as one actor that did not turn out as well as he could have. However, he didn't turn out bad, at all, either.

Originally posted by dadudemon
None of the above. Mark Hammil did not come into his own until he did Joker's voice. But other than that, neg on your list.

I'll give you Samuel L. Jackson as one actor that did not turn out as well as he could have. However, he didn't turn out bad, at all, either.

He's dead too by ROTS, but I wouldn't be surprised if they somehow brought him back.

SLJ sucked in the PT. Good actor but very miscast or misused. I dunno. Storywise the PT was lacking heavily on many counts, as well as characterisation. At least in the OT days Lucas wasn't an all powerful Emperor yet and the actors could 'correct' him or fill in their characters where content was lacking.

Originally posted by queeq
SLJ sucked in the PT. Good actor but very miscast or misused.

I thought he was decent. But since he can actually be a supreme actor, his performance left something to be desired. At times, he was quite good in the PT. Other times, his acting was no better than most of the stuff in the OT.

Here's why it is okay for highschool play acting to be okay in the OT but not the PT: The OT was a new thing and was part of a B-Movie Sci-Fi niche (A New Hope, not the other two). However, the PT was building off of a legacy so the quality should have been much better in the acting. It was definitely better than the OT, overall, but it was just not good enough to really stand above the acting from the OT so most people felt it fell flat compared to other top-notch movies (1). For some, this was such a let down that they thought the acting was worse (2). For others, they think the acting is worse in the PT than the OT (almost everyone on KMC)(3).

I fall into the first (1) camp. I think it was better than the OT but not that much better.

However, and hopefully, lessons learned from both the OT and PT will give us some great acting, great stories, and great effects in the ST. Wouldn't it be nice if all of us fell into camp 0 with the ST? Camp 0 would be: Acting was great, effects great, and story great: not much better could be done.

However, I have suspicions that the ST will realize a new kind of Star Wars Troll: "The PT Was Better" trolls.

Originally posted by dadudemon

Here's why it is okay for highschool play acting to be okay in the OT but not the PT

Originally posted by dadudemon
the PT was building off of a legacy so the quality should have been much better in the acting. It was definitely better than the OT, overall[...]

mind you, we're all entitled to or opinions, however silly.

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Originally posted by focus4chumps

mind you, we're all entitled to or opinions, however silly.

Exhibit A:

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I'll take what some call "wooden acting" over that unintentionally hilarious over-dramatics.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I'll take what some call "wooden acting" over that unintentionally hilarious over-dramatics.

Originally posted by Vensai
You realize you're talking about one of the most iconic star wars scenes right?

Do you think iconicity of that scene was Hamill's horrible acting or was the iconicity of that scene actually Vader's reveal?

Hamill's acting in that scene was superior to every single scene involving Christensen, Neeson, McGregor, Portman, or even Jackson in the entire PT.

With ONE exception:

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Perfect. Just absolutely perfect. On par with Shallow Grave, no question.

Originally posted by Vensai
You realize you're talking about one of the most iconic star wars scenes right?

ddm's on his own plane of reality. just "yeah yeah" him.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Hamill's acting in that scene was superior to every single scene involving Christensen, Neeson, McGregor, Portman, or even Jackson in the entire PT.

With ONE exception:

YouTube video

Perfect. Just absolutely perfect. On par with Shallow Grave, no question.

Let's add more objectivity into it and say the none of the Star Wars films are known for great acting? I just happen to hold that the PT has less of the cringe-worthy acting that the OT does.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's add more objectivity into it and say the none of the Star Wars films are known for great acting?

objectively

"trololo, etc"

Originally posted by dadudemon
I just happen to hold that the PT has less of the cringe-worthy acting that the OT does.