Disney acquires Lucasfilm; Episode VII proposed for 2015

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah but that was like 30 years ago. Lucas did the script for the original Star Wars. And probably had a writing hand in most of the Indiana Jones films.

For me, he's a kickass story teller. He isn't too risky with his stories and they are not very heady (except dat father reveal...one of the greatest reveals of all time in movie history, imo). But they still have mass appeal and still can satisfy at least some critics.

I try not to think of the ST, too much. If I do, I will overhype it and be hugely disappointed.

For me, the Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions sequels met and exceeded my expectations. I could not believe Revolutions followed up with such a kickass sequel to Reloaded and The Matrix. While feeling very different from The Matrix, Reloaded was such an entertaining and enjoyable film that I did not think the third could do any better. But, my opinion is in the minority among geeks (unfortunately). I see this happening with the Star Wars ST; the ST will not deliver what the fans want. I think I may fall into the "man, did not live up to hype" group only because I expect so much out of the films.

I grew up watching the OT and PT. Damnit...I don't want the hype. People like focus4chumps and Lord Lucien are offering probably accurate and sobering predictions about the ST that I just don't want to be true.

Palpitine's masterful rise to power and Luke's growth into a Jedi Knight are very very tough stories to top, imo. I just don't see how we can get something better and/or more well written even if we get some old talent back. Financially, if we get something on part with the PT, it will be a massive success. I want something just a tad better than the PT. Just a tad...

If we get that, I am sure the fans that were angry with the PT will be more forgiving. Kind of like a compromise that works in business negotiations*. They will think, "Well, it's better than the PT...that's a start."

*In negotiations, if you offer the lesser deal, first, it may not be accepted. However, if you offer a shitty deal, first, "they" might be more receptive to the lesser deal when you offer it. This has been researched and is a fairly interesting phenomena. I am, of course, horribly extrapolating that phenomena for the PT to ST "service satisfaction." lol, here's hoping I'm right.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah but that was like 30 years ago. Lucas did the script for the original Star Wars. And probably had a writing hand in most of the Indiana Jones films.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I thought the prequels were timeless and classics.

Originally posted by dadudemon
For me, the Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions sequels met and exceeded my expectations.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
YouTube video

This guy spent over 30 minutes ripping on the humor of Master of Disguise with humor that was far worse than Master of Disguise.

P.S. I thought Master of Disguise was hilarious and laughed quite a bit throughout the film. 🙂

Yeah but that's you saying that.

The Matrix sequels are clinically underrated. Not that they're great but the groupthink of their awfulness is so overdone that it's now completely underrated.

Originally posted by Based
The Matrix sequels are clinically underrated. Not that they're great but the groupthink of their awfulness is so overdone that it's now completely underrated.

That's fair. This is off-topic and my fault, as well. I think the Matrix Sequels kicked ass, though. 🙁

Originally posted by Based
The Matrix sequels are clinically underrated. Not that they're great but the groupthink of their awfulness is so overdone that it's now completely underrated.

Spielberg directing and or writing ep7 would've been perfect. Like It would've been The Perfect Star Wars movie..

"‘Star Wars: Episode VII’ producer wants to push film to 2016, but Disney is refusing."

http://www.hypable.com/2013/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-2016-disney/

Dunno if this is a good thing or a bad thing ..

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
"‘Star Wars: Episode VII’ producer wants to push film to 2016, but Disney is refusing."

http://www.hypable.com/2013/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-2016-disney/

Dunno if this is a good thing or a bad thing ..

Bad thing.

It's certainly nothing to be giddy over.

With the recent news of Michael Arndt being replaced, it's obvious they were not satisfied with the script.

Remember, filming was supposed to begin in January, but with Abrams and Kasdan doing a re-write, it's going to take more time to flesh things out, meaning that filming likely won't take place until next spring.

If the movie then is released in summer 2015, they'll have only 1 year to make the film. While it certainly can be done in today's industry, it's not ideal in my honest opinion.

Disney needs to be careful with this thing, and I mean really careful. With Ford, Hamill and Fisher all returning, I would say there will probably be more hype going into this movie than there was for The Phantom Menace, and we've all learned from the prequels what happens if a Star Wars movie turns out not be the absolute greatest film ever made.......(even if the reality is they weren't nearly as bad as people made them out to be)

I'm also not a fan of all the spin-offs they have planned. There was a time when watching a Star Wars movie on the big screen was a novelty. It happened once every 3 years. If Disney starts over-saturating the market with Star Wars films, that novelty's going to wear off pretty quick.

Going to be an interesting ride, and I'm anxious to see how Disney moves forward with everything.

Originally posted by Sith Master X
Disney needs to be careful with this thing, and I mean really careful. With Ford, Hamill and Fisher all returning, I would say there will probably be more hype going into this movie than there was for The Phantom Menace

Originally posted by Sith Master X
Disney needs to be careful with this thing, and I mean really careful. With Ford, Hamill and Fisher all returning, I would say there will probably be more hype going into this movie than there was for The Phantom Menace, and we've all learned from the prequels what happens if a Star Wars movie turns out not be the absolute greatest film ever made.......(even if the reality is they weren't nearly as bad as people made them out to be)

Touché and ditto.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
"‘Star Wars: Episode VII’ producer wants to push film to 2016, but Disney is refusing."

http://www.hypable.com/2013/10/31/star-wars-episode-vii-2016-disney/

Dunno if this is a good thing or a bad thing ..

Terrible.

Originally posted by Based
The Matrix sequels are clinically underrated. Not that they're great but the groupthink of their awfulness is so overdone that it's now completely underrated.

Sorta agree. I actually enjoyed Reloaded but the third was god awful.

I've decided that though Abrams is talented, he shouldn't be at the helm here.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Palpitine's masterful rise to power and Luke's growth into a Jedi Knight are very very tough stories to top, imo.

There are many improvements to be made in the PT, but Palpatine's rise and victory is the most compelling and powerful in mainstream scifi. Very hard to top. Lucas could have gone the conventional route and crafted a brutish thug who conquers his way into power. But what Palpatine did was much more clever and unique.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
There are many improvements to be made in the PT, but Palpatine's rise and victory is the most compelling and powerful in mainstream scifi. Very hard to top. Lucas could have gone the conventional route and crafted a brutish thug who conquers his way into power. But what Palpatine did was much more clever and unique.

Comes off very "A Song of Fire and Ice"-ish, now that I think about it.

Palpy would be at home in that universe. 313

Yup. And while Sidious is no Vader in terms of cultural appeal, he is a very iconic figure. Much of that likely owes to the fact that in most stories, successful villains begin in a position of success that then degrades over the course of the narrative.

With Palpatine, we actually see him work his way to the top across three movies. And then, instead of being beaten at the last second in ROTS, he pretty much secures his entire objective.

Very powerful.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
what Palpatine did was much more clever and unique.

I always thought that there were similarities between Palpatine's rise to power and Hitler's, having the Army pledge allegiance to him and not the state and things like that.

Originally posted by samhain
I always thought that there were similarities between Palpatine's rise to power and Hitler's, having the Army pledge allegiance to him and not the state and things like that.

And using the Jedi to blame their problems and starting a campaign to exterminate them.

Originally posted by samhain
I always thought that there were similarities between Palpatine's rise to power and Hitler's, having the Army pledge allegiance to him and not the state and things like that.

Palpatine's rise is based on any number of real world leaders, from Augustus to Napoleon to Hitler.

Ironically, Palpatine's ascent was far more subtle than Hitler's. Unlike Palpatine, Hitler requested emergency powers from the Reichstag with the 1933 Enabling Act and his true feelings about the Jews were broadcast as far back as Mein Kampf.