Originally posted by TheGodKillerSo what he beats Gandalf on points ? One avada kedavra and bye bye gandie.
Voldemort would come out looking the better of the 2 but I honestly think that it'll be a close battle. Hence, he wouldn't die, you twinklenutty.I just love it when the pot calls the kettle black.
I am unbreakable whereas you seem to break all day long.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So what he beats Gandalf on points ? One avada kedavra and bye bye gandie.I am unbreakable whereas you seem to break all day long.
You being unbreakable is like a wildebeest calling itself a carnivore.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerThe Aurors showed up. Quit asking stupid questions and go watch the movie.
Why did he fail to kill Dumbledore then despite looking the superior of the two?You being unbreakable is like a wildebeest calling itself a carnivore.
I look forward to the first time you render a laugh out of me. Your jokes are about as effective as your debating, nonexistent.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The Aurors showed up. Quit asking stupid questions and go watch the movie.I look forward to the first time you render a laugh out of me. Your jokes are about as effective as your debating, nonexistent.
Why would I need to make you laugh? You ARE afterall KMC forums' biggest joke.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerYou do realize Albus isn't Gandalf, right ? You do realize he had the elder wand. Does gandalf ? Does Gandalf possess the same abilities as Albus ? You really don't think before you type.
They showed up at the climax of the battle. Voldemort had ample opportunities to kill Dumbledore by then if he can easily dispatch Gandalf according to you. He didn't. This tells me that you're dead wrong.Why would I need to make you laugh? You ARE afterall KMC forums' biggest joke.
Voldemort left because backup had arrived. But then again it doesn't matter since Gandalf isn't Albus nor does he possess his abilities. Your moot like you is moot.
Insults don't faze me. You don't faze me. Bring an actual argument, you poster who has yet to make an impact on any board.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You do realize Albus isn't Gandalf, right ? You do realize he had the elder wand. Does gandalf ? Does Gandalf possess the same abilities as Albus ? You really don't think before you type.Voldemort left because backup had arrived. But then again it doesn't matter since Gandalf isn't Albus nor does he possess his abilities. Your moot like you is moot.
Insults don't faze me. You don't faze me. Bring an actual argument, you poster who has yet to make an impact on any board.
Voldemort left because he couldn't assassinate Dumbledore despite seemingly having a slight upper hand in the battle. LOL at you calling my points moot when you are the very definition of the term.
If they don't faze you, then you wouldn't be replying back with more insults. As it happens, your stance that wands are indestructible during battle has been thoroughly demolished by almost everyone youo argued with in this thread. Come back to me when you have a leg to stand upon.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI never said the elder wand makes anyone unbeatable. It doesn't but it is the most powerful wand in Hp verse. That's something gandalf doesn't have access to and since his abilities are different than Gandalf's you bringing it up makes no sense.
You're making it sound as if the Elder Wand makes one unbeatable when that clearly isn't the case. Voldemort isn't going to one-shot kill one of the(if not the) most powerful sorcerers from the LOTR series.Voldemort left because he couldn't assassinate Dumbledore despite seemingly having a slight upper hand in the battle. LOL at you calling my points moot when you are the very definition of the term.
If they don't faze you, then you wouldn't be replying back with more insults. As it happens, your stance that wands are indestructible during battle has been thoroughly demolished by almost everyone youo argued with in this thread. Come back to me when you have a leg to stand upon.
The avada kedavra will kill him with one shot. Gandalf is what the most powerful out of five or so sorcerers ? Hahahaha. Voldemort is the most powerful out of hundreds of sorcerers. Their magic is also far more potent than bright lights.
Voldemort left because the Auroras came. That's exactly why he left you slow witted fool.
My argument never once stated they were indestructible. My argument was the only way Gandalf can do so is by overpowering his opponent. Voldemort is by far more powerful than Gandalf so it ain't happening.
Only you would say Voldemort wins but both guys are alive.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said the elder wand makes anyone unbeatable. It doesn't but it is the most powerful wand in Hp verse. That's something gandalf doesn't have access to and since his abilities are different than Gandalf's you bringing it up makes no sense.The avada kedavra will kill him with one shot. Gandalf is what the most powerful out of five or so sorcerers ? Hahahaha. Voldemort is the most powerful out of hundreds of sorcerers. Their magic is also far more potent than bright lights.
Voldemort left because the Auroras came. That's exactly why he left you slow witted fool.
My argument never once stated they were indestructible. My argument was the only way Gandalf can do so is by overpowering his opponent. Voldemort is by far more powerful than Gandalf so it ain't happening.
Only you would say Voldemort wins but both guys are alive.
That's only if he Voldemort hits him with it, which is thoroughly unlikely. Those 4 or 5 sorcerers are peers to the best witches and warlocks of the HPverse. Majority of Rowling's mages were quite unimpressive and would be fodder in this battle imo. Also funny that you would dismiss LOTR magic as "bright lights" when majority of the HPverse magic was literally portrayed as little more than shiny concussive flashes.
Voldemort left because he knew he couldn't outright defeat Dumbledore. The aurors were just the icing on the cake.
You implied that throughout the entirety of this thread. You all but said that they couldn't be broken during duels. If you think that Gandalf needs to overpower his opponent in order to destroy their wand, then you're blatantly ignoring on-screen evidence which has been presented to you before, and which goes contrary to your presumptions.
Voldemort would end up looking the better of the 2 imo, but by no means is it going to be some outrageous curbstomp as you're trying to allude here.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI never once said the elder wand makes you invincible. You are making things up. So the most powerful wand in existence doesn't help that much ? Are you serious ? Gandalf needs more than the elder wand to compete since he throws pine cones after scurrying up trees against common orcs he's going to be shit out of luck against Voldemort.
I am glad to see that you concede that the elder wand doesn't make one unbeatable. Imo, the elder wand didn't make much of a difference to their duel, and Gandalf doesn't need it to hang with Voldemort.That's only if he Voldemort hits him with it, which is thoroughly unlikely. Those 4 or 5 sorcerers are peers to the best witches and warlocks of the HPverse. Majority of Rowling's mages were quite unimpressive and would be fodder in this battle imo. Also funny that you would dismiss LOTR magic as "bright lights" when majority of the HPverse magic was literally portrayed as little more than shiny concussive flashes.
Voldemort left because he knew he couldn't outright defeat Dumbledore. The aurors were just the icing on the cake.
You implied that throughout the entirety of this thread. You all but said that they couldn't be broken during duels. If you think that Gandalf needs to overpower his opponent in order to destroy their wand, then you're blatantly ignoring on-screen evidence which has been presented to you before, and which goes contrary to your presumptions.
Voldemort would end up looking the better of the 2 imo, but by no means is it going to be some outrageous curbstomp as you're trying to allude here.
Voldemort, Albus Dumbledore, Moody, Snape, Granger, Black, Le Strange, etc. The best is you think the nature wizard Brown iirc is in their league. LOL. The abilities of the HP mages are far more formidable than Gandalf's greatest. They can fly, shoot projectiles, cause intense pain with crucio, one shot kill curse, create huge fire creatures, etc.
HP Mages would wreak havoc in the LOTR verse. They'd sonn Helm's deep and quite easily.
He left when they showed up. That wasn't the icing on the cake they were the reason he left. he didn't leave until they showed up.
Gandalf only did so when he overpowered Saruman. He didn't try the tactic prior to because saruman was clearly more powerful then. The Witch King showed he was more powerful than Gandalf when he destroyed his wand.
Avada Kedavra. Bye bye pine cone tosser.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never once said the elder wand makes you invincible. You are making things up. So the most powerful wand in existence doesn't help that much ? Are you serious ? Gandalf needs more than the elder wand to compete since he throws pine cones after scurrying up trees against common orcs he's going to be shit out of luck against Voldemort.Voldemort, Albus Dumbledore, Moody, Snape, Granger, Black, Le Strange, etc. The best is you think the nature wizard Brown iirc is in their league. LOL. The abilities of the HP mages are far more formidable than Gandalf's greatest. They can fly, shoot projectiles, cause intense pain with crucio, one shot kill curse, create huge fire creatures, etc.
HP Mages would wreak havoc in the LOTR verse. They'd sonn Helm's deep and quite easily.
He left when they showed up. That wasn't the icing on the cake they were the reason he left. he didn't leave until they showed up.
Gandalf only did so when he overpowered Saruman. He didn't try the tactic prior to because saruman was clearly more powerful then. The Witch King showed he was more powerful than Gandalf when he destroyed his wand.
Avada Kedavra. Bye bye pine cone tosser.
Nope. Even then, these are like half a dozen out of thousands(possibly millions, considering the overall population of HPverse wizards). And based on actual feats, LOTR warlocks can be considered their peers. But I forget that I am talking to the person who openly disses on feats in a battle. Only Voldemort and Snape have been depicted on-screen to fly. Most of the Order wizards never used unforgivable spells like crucio as well.
HP mages would wreak havoc simply because of their huge numbers. Because in the end, it all comes down to the numbers game. Because skill and powerwise only a handful of these mages are peers to the LOTR's peak warlocks.
He failed to kill Dumbledore. He was frustrated and discouraged by this fact. Add in the aurors, and you get impossible odds for even someone like Voldemort to overcome. So yeah, the aurors were just the icing on the cake.
The point is that he's tried this tactic before, so there is absolutely nothing which prevents him from doing so again. And it won't be much of a problem at all, seeing how HPverse wands are twigs stuffed with magical animal parts.
Only if he gets the chance to put in a clean hit. Which in itself is very unlikely.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerI never made the claim. You're a buffoon.
I accepted your concession. Move on already.Nope. Even then, these are like half a dozen out of thousands(possibly millions, considering the overall population of HPverse wizards). And based on actual feats, LOTR warlocks can be considered their peers. But I forget that I am talking to the person who openly disses on feats in a battle. Only Voldemort and Snape have been depicted on-screen to fly. Most of the Order wizards never used unforgivable spells like crucio as well.
HP mages would wreak havoc simply because of their huge numbers. Because in the end, it all comes down to the numbers game. Because skill and powerwise only a handful of these mages are peers to the LOTR's peak warlocks.
He failed to kill Dumbledore. He was frustrated and discouraged by this fact. Add in the aurors, and you get impossible odds for even someone like Voldemort to overcome. So yeah, the aurors were just the icing on the cake.
The point is that he's tried this tactic before, so there is absolutely nothing which prevents him from doing so again. And it won't be much of a problem at all, seeing how HPverse wands are twigs stuffed with magical animal parts.
Only if he gets the chance to put in a clean hit. Which in itself is very unlikely.
The movies don't focus on half a million wizards. We don't see anywhere near that number and there are a lot more than I named as competent and effective. The movies don't have time top delve into that you fool.
Now I know you haven't seen the films. We see many death eaters flying in deathly hallows 2 storming the castle. LOL at only Snape and Voldemort. Idiot.
No, wrong. Hp mages are far more impressive than lotr mages. Their abilities are leaps and bounds better. Inferni, Fiendfyre, one shot kill powers, crucio, imperio, flight, etc.
Voldemort clearly held the advantage and was frustrated but didn't leave until backup arrived. That's what made him leave. If you deny this then you're just a troll.
You have to prove he can do so to someone more powerful. Gandalf almost always lets his opponent attack first. That's in character. So now you say Voldemort wins but gets his wand destroyed. You can't even make up your mind who wins because you're clearly a troll.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I never made the claim. You're a buffoon.The movies don't focus on half a million wizards. We don't see anywhere near that number and there are a lot more than I named as competent and effective. The movies don't have time top delve into that you fool.
Now I know you haven't seen the films. We see many death eaters flying in deathly hallows 2 storming the castle. LOL at only Snape and Voldemort. Idiot.
No, wrong. Hp mages are far more impressive than lotr mages. Their abilities are leaps and bounds better. Inferni, Fiendfyre, one shot kill powers, crucio, imperio, flight, etc.
Voldemort clearly held the advantage and was frustrated but didn't leave until backup arrived. That's what made him leave. If you deny this then you're just a troll.
You have to prove he can do so to someone more powerful. Gandalf almost always lets his opponent attack first. That's in character. So now you say Voldemort wins but gets his wand destroyed. You can't even make up your mind who wins because you're clearly a troll.
Oh just drop this pretense already. Hogwarts had hundreds of students fighting in the frontlines. Voldemort had who knows how many Death Eaters on his side. It's crystal clear that in a war between LOTRverse mages and HPverse mages, the HPverse will win by a margin only due to their more impressive numbers. The more you bash, the more you crash.
Post the video evidence or gtfo. I recall Voldy and Snape being the only DA members that flew on-screen. And don't post a snippet of them apparating, because it's not the same thing.
In your dreams. Any objective person who has seen both series would come to conclusion that the top mages of LOTR are a tier above the average HP-wizard. You're the antonym of objectivity, so it's clear why you'd never come to such a conclusion.
Voldemort fled because he knew he couldn't kill Albus in a direct conflict. He knew that, despite his stunning initial performance, he would eventually get cornered. The aurors were just what I've stated them to be: the icing on the cake.
I don't have to prove anything. Wands have been broken in combat before, including a wand that was wielded by Riddle himself. Wands are very much destructible in combat. Gandalf has utilized such a tactic successfully before, and all the proof from both series tells us that he would do so again. I say that Voldemort would come out on top because he doesn't need his wand to perform magic as has been demonstrated before. You're a disgrace to Voldemort, the character I myself have to champion.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerImitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Why thank you. I have based a little due to your ignorance with regards to this entire topic. You have showed up just to troll. If there is one thing I cannot stand it's a troll. It's the opposite of what I am so I naturally destroy trolls. You are a troll.
You're so frustrated with your ordeal that you've now resorted to needless bashing, I see. I have invaded and taken over your head.Oh just drop this pretense already. Hogwarts had hundreds of students fighting in the frontlines. Voldemort had who knows how many Death Eaters on his side. It's crystal clear that in a war between LOTRverse mages and HPverse mages, the HPverse will win by a margin only due to their more impressive numbers. The more you bash, the more you crash.
Post the video evidence or gtfo. I recall Voldy and Snape being the only DA members that flew on-screen. And don't post a snippet of them apparating, because it's not the same thing.
In your dreams. Any objective person who has seen both series would come to conclusion that the top mages of LOTR are a tier above the average HP-wizard. You're the antonym of objectivity, so it's clear why you'd never come to such a conclusion.
Voldemort fled because he knew he couldn't kill Albus in a direct conflict. He knew that, despite his stunning initial performance, he would eventually get cornered. The aurors were just what I've stated them to be: the icing on the cake.
I don't have to prove anything. Wands have been broken in combat before, including a wand that was wielded by Riddle himself. Wands are very much destructible in combat. Gandalf has utilized such a tactic successfully before, and all the proof from both series tells us that he would do so again. I say that Voldemort would come out on top because he doesn't need his wand to perform magic as has been demonstrated before. You're a disgrace to Voldemort, the character I myself have to champion.
Their mages were also far more impressive. Give me one impressive feat by five LOtr mages to back up your claim. The nature wizard is a pure joke but you'd rather have his abilities than Snape's. So tell me why.
You obviously didn't see these films. I mean we see many of them flying to invade hogwarts.
Around 6 minutes in. To say those are the only two who have ever flown ignores a great many other scenes as well. This is just one scene. It's laughable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_S-XrrRtn4
There are only 5 mages in the lotr verse. Their greatest mage can't even sniff Voldemort's asshair. We don't see into a great many other mages but we do know there are a bunch with exceptional skill level. The abilities in the hp verse blow the Lotr verse's abilities out of the water.
If he left prior to the aurors showing up you'd have a point. But since he stood over Harry and only left due to them arriving. That's the exact moment he left was their arrival not prior to. You and logic seem to not know each other at all.
You are ignoring the context of why they broke. I don't ignore context but trolls like you do. I never once said their wands were unbreakable I said Gandalf's method won't break a wand unless it is overpowered. In the potterverse it's never been broken due to being overpowered. That's two strikes and the icing on the cake is the fact Voldemort has superior feats of power than Gandalf. Gandalf's staff was broken in combat by the Witch King, pup.
You know nothing of Voldemort nor of the Potter series in general outside a few wiki reads. Anyone who says only Snape and Voldemort can fly hasn't seen the movies.
Voldemort wins, avada kedavra.
Voldemort obvious pwns Gandalf the White. Since neither need worded spells to launch attacks (and Voldemort sometimes doesn't even need a wand, unlike Gandalf, who is utterly phucked without his staff), this is essentially going to come down to a quick draw, and Voldemort is definitely the faster of the 2 (and that's not including the fact that he can teleport).
Also, can't Voldemort launch one of those "mist blasts" that he launches at Dumbledore in HP5 (which breaks all the glass in the room, which Voldemort proceeds to manipulate every single piece, a feat wayyyyy more epic than any TK Gandalf has shown), or at Harry in HP7?
Voldemort's magic is way too versatile and powerful for Gandalf to overcome. Lol at anyone who says Gandalf is one Voldemort's level
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Originally posted by Lord Lucien
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Originally posted by quanchi112
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Why thank you. I have based a little due to your ignorance with regards to this entire topic. You have showed up just to troll. If there is one thing I cannot stand it's a troll. It's the opposite of what I am so I naturally destroy trolls. You are a troll.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Their mages were also far more impressive. Give me one impressive feat by five LOtr mages to back up your claim. The nature wizard is a pure joke but you'd rather have his abilities than Snape's. So tell me why.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You obviously didn't see these films. I mean we see many of them flying to invade hogwarts.Around 6 minutes in. To say those are the only two who have ever flown ignores a great many other scenes as well. This is just one scene. It's laughable.
Originally posted by quanchi112
There are only 5 mages in the lotr verse. Their greatest mage can't even sniff Voldemort's asshair. We don't see into a great many other mages but we do know there are a bunch with exceptional skill level. The abilities in the hp verse blow the Lotr verse's abilities out of the water.
Originally posted by quanchi112
If he left prior to the aurors showing up you'd have a point. But since he stood over Harry and only left due to them arriving. That's the exact moment he left was their arrival not prior to. You and logic seem to not know each other at all.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You are ignoring the context of why they broke. I don't ignore context but trolls like you do. I never once said their wands were unbreakable I said Gandalf's method won't break a wand unless it is overpowered. In the potterverse it's never been broken due to being overpowered. That's two strikes and the icing on the cake is the fact Voldemort has superior feats of power than Gandalf. Gandalf's staff was broken in combat by the Witch King, pup.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You know nothing of Voldemort nor of the Potter series in general outside a few wiki reads. Anyone who says only Snape and Voldemort can fly hasn't seen the movies.