HP Doomsday vs Destroyer

Originally posted by h1a8
You are not addressing my post just repeating yourself. Ill take it as concession accepted.

There are two reasons why Thor couldn't do it

1. It's not in his character, he doesn't absorb his own energies from within and amp them. He doesn't even think nor fight like that as he threw the hammer away thinking it was futile. He only amps blasts that he absorbed from enemies and from the weather. And the high majority of the time he only blocks blasts, not absorb them and send them back at 10fold. This fight isn't CIS off. I smell desperation.

2. Mjolnir might not can handle the Destroyer's energies period and break trying.

The question was about whether or not using Mjolnir would make the Destroyer more powerful, The answer to that question is yes and I provided and example of one of the ways it could boost the Destroyer's output.

Again, not that it matters since King Thor won't need to use that tactic as he already has enough power to make this a spite thread.

Originally posted by h1a8
Even if that were true we are reduced to arguing speculatively in two ways:

1. How a character usually fights, Thor never thought of this and actually threw the damn hammer away on panel believing it is inferior to the Destroyer. Thor doesn't amp his own energies at all. He only amps the energy he absorbed from an attack or the weather.

2. If somehow Mjolnir can tap into a device created by a high end skyfather to amp his power. I mean I would think Odin would have created the armor to amp his own power to maximum levels. Not sure if Mjolnir can handle Destroyer's energy without breaking.

But at least you are debating now and not trolling.

The very fact the Odin himself while in the armor summoned Mjolnir to use as a weapon against galactus would hint to it making destroyer more powerful

Originally posted by DarkOdin
The very fact the Odin himself while in the armor summoned Mjolnir to use as a weapon against galactus would hint to it making destroyer more powerful

Lastly, to do anything exotic with Mjolnir requires time. The enemy isn't just going to sit there without incident. It would be far better and faster if Destroyer just used his own blasts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The question was about whether or not using Mjolnir would make the Destroyer more powerful, The answer to that question is yes and I provided and example of one of the ways it could boost the Destroyer's output.

Again, not that it matters since King Thor won't need to use that tactic as he already has enough power to make this a spite thread.

How so?
1. DD tanked the OE. This proves he's not getting one shotted.

2. DD evolves greater resistance on the fly. This proves the Destroyer would be less effective as the fight goes on.

3. DD easily penetrates Superman like he's made of nothing. And Superman is one of the most durable beings in comics by feats. Thus DD should have no problem damaging Destroyer.

4. Not that this counts but it was made clear that HP DD is beyond death and only the end of time can end him (abstract level power). So please give DD the benefit of the doubt.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Are you asking if Mjolnir directly amps the Destroyer Armor?

Or if the Destroyer having Mjolnir in its possession makes it overall more formidable?

Because, really, in spite of the Destroyer Armor being > Mjolnir typically, I'm legitimately baffled how anyone could think adding Mjolnir to the Armor wouldn't make it overall more powerful and formidable.

Lol at DD being one shotted

Originally posted by quanchi112
More versatile yes but not more powerful. Destroyer armor is more powerful than Thor's hammer. It gives him more options.

The armor itself is more powerful than Mjolnir, yes. Mjolnir still has abilities which the Destroyer doesn't such as wide scale manipulation of the weather on a planetary scale, longer range attacks, and the Godblast, which arguably, trumps even the Destroyer's disintegration beam.

Giving the Destroyer Armor Mjolnir to use in addition to its natural powers - and whatever else the host might be able to use - totally makes the DA more powerful and formidable as a whole because of those added options.

Originally posted by DickBlazer
Lol at DD being one shotted

You're aware that nobody has claimed that DD would be one-shotted, right?

h1a8 is just making things up.

Originally posted by h1a8
I didn't see Odin summon Mjolnir while animating the Destroyer. Destroyer with Mjolnir looks cool and dangerous as hell. But we all know that Mjolnir would most likely make Destroyer weaker. Hell, Galactus can one shot Mjolnir if he wanted to.

Lastly, to do anything exotic with Mjolnir requires time. The enemy isn't just going to sit there without incident. It would be far better and faster if Destroyer just used his own blasts.

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You didn't see Odin summon mjolnir while in destroyer because you didn't read the comic

Odin while in the destroyer armor summoned mjolnir from Thor who was flying at the time then crash to the ground b/c Odin summon mjolnir.

And Most of mjolnir powers are as fast as a thought to activate it.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
You didn't see Odin summon mjolnir while in destroyer because you didn't read the comic

Odin while in the destroyer armor summoned mjolnir from Thor who was flying at the time then crash to the ground b/c Odin summon mjolnir.

And Most of mjolnir powers are as fast as a thought to activate it.

Remember, This is h1a8.

He didn't even know that Thor was able to use Mjolnir's powers while in the Destroyer until I posted the scan...this despite him posting scans from that arc...which pretty much proves that he gets all his info from battle/respect threads and not the actual comics.

Destroyer wins via BFR. Simples.

He could do that to win, sure.

But he could also just beat the shit out of him.

Yah - but I don't see how having Mjolnir weakens the Destroyer, lol.

Even if you only add5% extra power, its still 105%. Plus your extra 5% opens portals.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah - but I don't see how having Mjolnir weakens the Destroyer, lol.

Even if you only add5% extra power, its still 105%. Plus your extra 5% opens portals.

According to h1a8 100% + 5% = 95%

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yah - but I don't see how having Mjolnir weakens the Destroyer, lol.

Even if you only add5% extra power, its still 105%. Plus your extra 5% opens portals.

👆

I mean, the idea that adding Mjolnir wouldn't make King Thor in the Destroyer Armor overall more powerful and formidable than without it is even more crazy than the idea that Mjolnir is only kinda more durable than Superman.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The armor itself is more powerful than Mjolnir, yes. Mjolnir still has abilities which the Destroyer doesn't such as wide scale manipulation of the weather on a planetary scale, longer range attacks, and the Godblast, which arguably, trumps even the Destroyer's disintegration beam.

Giving the Destroyer Armor Mjolnir to use in addition to its natural powers - and whatever else the host might be able to use - totally makes the DA more powerful and formidable as a whole because of those added options.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I for one don't think the godblast is more powerful than the Destroyer. Like I said it can add to the versatility but the hammer doesn't make the Destroyer more powerful. You can make the argument for more formidable which I don't disagree with but more powerful, nope.

The Godblast has overall better offensive feats than the Destroyer does.

I mean, if you had equal souls animating two exact copies of the Destroyer Armor, only one had Mjolnir, the one with the hammer would be more powerful than the one without it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The Godblast has overall better offensive feats than the Destroyer does.

I mean, if you had equal souls animating two exact copies of the Destroyer Armor, only one had Mjolnir, the one with the hammer would be more powerful than the one without it.

The destroyer is consistently on another level of power than Thor is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hurting a weakened Galactus, and hurting a Celestial are awesome feats but I doubt you'd disagree that the Destroyer couldn't replicate the very same damage.

The destroyer is consistently on another level of power than Thor is.

I don't think the Destroyer could normally one shot cripple the likes of Zelia of the Dark Gods who had stolen most of Odin's power for herself. Nor do I think the Destroyer could produce energy on its own to hold up 1/4 of the multiverse.

I'm not disputing that and I even agreed to that point. But Mjolnir provides offensive options that the Destroyer can't and its most powerful attacks rival even the Destroyer's disintegration beam and in some cases, trump it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I don't think the Destroyer could normally one shot cripple the likes of Zelia of the Dark Gods who had stolen most of Odin's power for herself. Nor do I think the Destroyer could produce energy on its own to hold up 1/4 of the multiverse.

I'm not disputing that and I even agreed to that point. But Mjolnir provides offensive options that the Destroyer can't and its most powerful attacks rival even the Destroyer's disintegration beam and in some cases, trump it.

I think the Destroyer can harm the Celestials since it has. I also think it could harm a weakened Galactus. You are free to disagree.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Exclusive feats are exclusive feats. The Destroyer hasn't been in the same situation so while you think it can't I think it can. It's been consistently proven to be >>>more powerful than Thor. Yes, that's why I agree it makes it more versatile/more formidable not more powerful.

I think the Destroyer can harm the Celestials since it has. I also think it could harm a weakened Galactus. You are free to disagree.

The Destroyer was present for the Dark Gods invasion of Asgard, and it was being pushed to the limits.

Fair enough.

In any case, moot point as virtually everyone here agrees that King Thor-Destroyer kills Doomsday.