Originally posted by JakeTheBankKing Thor doesn't need the Destroyer armor. Reigning King Thor was all kinds of badass. Best Thor. Ever.
The Destroyer was present for the Dark Gods invasion of Asgard, and it was being pushed to the limits.Fair enough.
In any case, moot point as virtually everyone here agrees that King Thor-Destroyer kills Doomsday.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
He really doesn't need the armor here, no.
King Thor without the Armor isn't the same as him animating the armor. Stop acting like the latter is King Thor + Destroyer when in reality it is just Destroyer controlled by King Thor. It's arguable that King Thor is more powerful than the Destroyer and this fight have a less powerful being against DD than King Thor himself.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
👆I mean, the idea that adding Mjolnir wouldn't make King Thor in the Destroyer Armor overall more powerful and formidable than without it is even more crazy than the idea that Mjolnir is only kinda more durable than Superman.
We go by feats Jake. You know that. Stop being a worst debater than Quan now.
Superman does have the feats that show him not being too far away from Mjolnir in durability. To deny this is trolling and ignoring on panel proof.
Originally posted by Silent MasterThis is a lie. I clearly read the part where Thor teleported. I dismissed it for the reasons I gave. Thor was shown to pick up the hammer and only use Mjolnir's power when in contact with it. You can't deny this.
Remember, This is h1a8.He didn't even know that Thor was able to use Mjolnir's powers while in the Destroyer until I posted the scan...this despite him posting scans from that arc...which pretty much proves that he gets all his info from battle/respect threads and not the actual comics.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The armor itself is more powerful than Mjolnir, yes. Mjolnir still has abilities which the Destroyer doesn't such as wide scale manipulation of the weather on a planetary scale, longer range attacks, and the Godblast, which arguably, trumps even the Destroyer's disintegration beam.Giving the Destroyer Armor Mjolnir to use in addition to its natural powers - and whatever else the host might be able to use - totally makes the DA more powerful and formidable as a whole because of those added options.
More abilities doesn't mean more powerful. An extra ability can be weaker or just not as practical in a real fight (takes too long to pull out and or is too inconvenient). And thus you see that extra powers in this case can be more of a liability than an asset.
Destroyer can't do the Godblast with Mjolnir. The energies must come from Thor's body and not the Destroyer itself. Also it is arguable that the Destroyer blasts are greater than the Godblast.
Fight is battle distance, and leaving the battlefield isn't permitted. What good is longer range attacks when the Destroyer's beams can travel far more than battle distance?
Originally posted by the Darkone
You mean KT would sh** stomp 10/10. KT w/Destroyer armor would raze Doomsday a$$ into oblivion.
Stop trolling.
KT>KT animating Destroyer for the most part
Stop acting as if KT animating Destroyer>>>>>King Thor
King Thor vs. DD is an entirely different fight here. Nothing the same.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I like how h1a8 is trying to use the fact that Thor picked up Mjolnir as proof that he couldn't have summoned it.
You mean evidence, not proof. We have no proof or evidence that Thor could have summoned it while animating the Destroyer's armor while we have evidence to the contrary.
Originally posted by Silent MasterThen you would have to bend over to pick it up. It's not as quick or convenient. Also it makes you appear silly and not as powerful or cool if you pick it up. There is no reason you can give me that shows picking up the hammer>>>>>summoning it to your hand.
I'd pick it up, because summoning something when it's already in reach is moronic.
Originally posted by h1a8
Then you would have to bend over to pick it up. It's not as quick or convenient. Also it makes you appear silly and not as powerful or cool if you pick it up. There is no reason you can give me that shows picking up the hammer>>>>>summoning it to your hand.
This is one of the dumbest arguments you've ever tried to use.
Originally posted by Silent Master
This is one of the dumbest arguments you've ever tried to use.
Not really, it's the truth. Just ask anyone.
There is no reason picking it up is better than summoning to your hand. Actually I was going to say the same thing to you. Saying that you would pick up the hammer vs. summon it to your hand is one of the dumbest things I heard you say. Seriously 😬
Originally posted by h1a8
Not really, it's the truth. Just ask anyone.
There is no reason picking it up is better than summoning to your hand. Actually I was going to say the same thing to you. Saying that you would pick up the hammer vs. summon it to your hand is one of the dumbest things I heard you say. Seriously 😬
This is one of the dumbest arguments you've ever tried to use.
Originally posted by h1a8
King Thor without the Armor isn't the same as him animating the armor. Stop acting like the latter is King Thor + Destroyer when in reality it is just Destroyer controlled by King Thor. It's arguable that King Thor is more powerful than the Destroyer and this fight have a less powerful being against DD than King Thor himself.We go by feats Jake. You know that. Stop being a worst debater than Quan now.
Superman does have the feats that show him not being too far away from Mjolnir in durability. To deny this is trolling and ignoring on panel proof.This is a lie. I clearly read the part where Thor teleported. I dismissed it for the reasons I gave. Thor was shown to pick up the hammer and only use Mjolnir's power when in contact with it. You can't deny this.
More abilities doesn't mean more powerful. An extra ability can be weaker or just not as practical in a real fight (takes too long to pull out and or is too inconvenient). And thus you see that extra powers in this case can be more of a liability than an asset.
Destroyer can't do the Godblast with Mjolnir. The energies must come from Thor's body and not the Destroyer itself. Also it is arguable that the Destroyer blasts are greater than the Godblast.
Fight is battle distance, and leaving the battlefield isn't permitted. What good is longer range attacks when the Destroyer's beams can travel far more than battle distance?
Yes Destroyer can do a godblast it is Thor's goldy essences/life force that mjolnir draws the to use the godblast, The destroyer is fill with the essence/lifeforce of the individual using it So if Thor is control it he can god blast away
Originally posted by h1a8
King Thor without the Armor isn't the same as him animating the armor. Stop acting like the latter is King Thor + Destroyer when in reality it is just Destroyer controlled by King Thor. It's arguable that King Thor is more powerful than the Destroyer and this fight have a less powerful being against DD than King Thor himself.We go by feats Jake. You know that. Stop being a worst debater than Quan now.
Superman does have the feats that show him not being too far away from Mjolnir in durability. To deny this is trolling and ignoring on panel proof.This is a lie. I clearly read the part where Thor teleported. I dismissed it for the reasons I gave. Thor was shown to pick up the hammer and only use Mjolnir's power when in contact with it. You can't deny this.
More abilities doesn't mean more powerful. An extra ability can be weaker or just not as practical in a real fight (takes too long to pull out and or is too inconvenient). And thus you see that extra powers in this case can be more of a liability than an asset.
Destroyer can't do the Godblast with Mjolnir. The energies must come from Thor's body and not the Destroyer itself. Also it is arguable that the Destroyer blasts are greater than the Godblast.
Fight is battle distance, and leaving the battlefield isn't permitted. What good is longer range attacks when the Destroyer's beams can travel far more than battle distance?
Any soul animating the Destroyer, provided they have the means to do so (ie. Odin and Thor) can call upon their powers as well as the Destroyer. Ergo, King Thor can use the Odin Force as well as Mjolnir in addition to what the Armor brings. Christ on a cracker. And considering King Thor one shot killed the Destroyer occupied by a being who was practically immune to godly power/energy, there's no "debate" as to which is more powerful between King Thor and the Destroyer Armor.
The hell? 😬 I am using feats. And by feats, I'm right and you're wrong. The fact you're trying to spin Superman's durability as being about only slightly less than Mjolnir's own - to say nothing of the Destroyer - speaks volumes of who's in the right here.
Fact of the matter is that the Odin Force ultimately trumps both Mjolnir and the Destroyer Armor. A guy animating the armor in possession of said force is grossly more powerful than the armor being used normally.
Indisputable.