HP Doomsday vs Destroyer

Started by quanchi11229 pages

Originally posted by Silent Master
Even assuming that such would normally be true, we are talking about King Thor here and him having access to his powers + those of the Destroyer makes him far more powerful than someone who can only access the Destroyer's power.
The Destroyer wins hands down but your claim that Thor's hammer makes the Destroyer more powerful is incorrect.

No, it's not.

An example would be that since both Mjolnir and the Destroyer have the ability to project energy, he could use both at the same time which means he is putting out more power that either one could do on their own.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it's not.
How does the hammer make the Destroyer more powerful ?

Originally posted by -Pr-
How is that the same thing, when one of Thor's powers is the ability to explicitly summon Mjolnir at any point in time?

The Destroyer can't summon Mjolnir. Thor had to manually pick it up on panel. Destroyer has no abilities other than his natural ones. Remember the power of summoning Mjolnir is not within Destroyer but inside King Thor's body, whose not even on the battlefield.

Originally posted by h1a8
The Destroyer can't summon Mjolnir. Thor had to manually pick it up on panel. Destroyer has no abilities other than his natural ones. Remember the power of summoning Mjolnir is not within Destroyer but inside King Thor's body, whose not even on the battlefield.

This is a lie, as I've already shown Thor using Mjolnir's abiltiies while in the armor.

Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it's not.

An example would be that since both Mjolnir and the Destroyer have the ability to project energy, he could use both at the same time which means he is putting out more power that either one could do on their own.

But if Destroyer is using Mjolnir to blast then he is not using both his hands to blasts which is more powerful. Two hands plus visor>>>>>>visor plus Mjolnir

Originally posted by Silent Master
This is a lie, as I've already shown Thor using Mjolnir's abiltiies while in the armor.
Yes Mjolnir abilities, not Thor's. Remember the Destroyer and Rulk has to be in contact with the hammer to use it's power.

Originally posted by Silent Master
This is a lie, as I've already shown Thor using Mjolnir's abiltiies while in the armor.
Are you going to explain to me how the hammer makes the Destroyer more powerful ?

Originally posted by h1a8
But if Destroyer is using Mjolnir to blast then he is not using both his hands to blasts which is more powerful. Two hands plus visor>>>>>>visor plus Mjolnir

Mjolnir also has the ability to amp energy, which means he could channel the Destroyer's energy through Mjolnir and send out an amped blast.

So again, Mjolnir does make the Destroyer more powerful.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Mjolnir also has the ability to amp energy, which means he could channel the Destroyer's energy through Mjolnir and send out an amped blast.

So again, Mjolnir does make the Destroyer more powerful.

Even if that were true we are reduced to arguing speculatively in two ways:

1. How a character usually fights, Thor never thought of this and actually threw the damn hammer away on panel believing it is inferior to the Destroyer. Thor doesn't amp his own energies at all. He only amps the energy he absorbed from an attack or the weather.

2. If somehow Mjolnir can tap into a device created by a high end skyfather to amp his power. I mean I would think Odin would have created the armor to amp his own power to maximum levels. Not sure if Mjolnir can handle Destroyer's energy without breaking.

But at least you are debating now and not trolling.

The hammer is more versatile than the armor in energy absorption and output, the armor has the disintegration beam which rival the God blast both can kill Sky Father level beings, which King Thor would have at his disposal.

Thor can encase DD in vortex barrier which unbreakable under normal circumstances, but this is King Thor basically all of his abilities would be increasingly amp due to the Odin-Force, and the armor would make Thor impervious from harm.

this spite on the highest order

Originally posted by h1a8
Even if that were true

Thor absorbing energy and amping it.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir184-EnergyAbsorptionv222.jpg

Originally posted by the Darkone
The hammer is more versatile than the armor in energy absorption and output, the armor has the disintegration beam which rival the God blast both can kill Sky Father level beings, which King Thor would have at his disposal.

Thor can encase DD in vortex barrier which unbreakable under normal circumstances, but this is King Thor basically all of his abilities would be increasingly amp due to the Odin-Force, and the armor would make Thor impervious from harm.

this spite on the highest order

Relevant to this fight. DD doesn't have energy projection to absorb. Also why waste time absorbing someone's energy blast when you can kill them with a blast and are nearly indestructible?

Also Destroyer can't God blast with the hammer. He doesn't have Thor's godly energies inside of him. Plus the disintegrating beam>>>>>>Godblast. I'm not even sure the hammer can handle Destroyer's own energies without breaking.

Thor encasing DD in a vortex requires him
1. to throw the hammer, losing contact, and not being able to control the hammer via remote control once contact is lost.
2. to fight out of character. He rarely, if ever, does something like that in a one on one fight. Plus DD wouldn't just sit there and allow that slow ass move to happen. DD would be trying to rape him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Thor absorbing energy and amping it.

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir184-EnergyAbsorptionv222.jpg

Thank you for not reading my entire post. This makes you look silly.

Never mind I'll just reenter the post and bold the important part.

"Even if that were true we are reduced to arguing speculatively in two ways:

1. How a character usually fights, Thor never thought of this and actually threw the damn hammer away on panel believing it is inferior to the Destroyer. Thor doesn't amp his own energies at all.He only amps the energy he absorbed from an attack or the weather.

2. If somehow Mjolnir can tap into a device created by a high end skyfather to amp his power. I mean I would think Odin would have created the armor to amp his own power to maximum levels. Not sure if Mjolnir can handle Destroyer's energy without breaking.

But at least you are now starting to troll again."

The Destroyer's energy blasts don't come from Mjolnir so nothing is stopping him from directing the energy at the hammer so that he could amp it. So yes, Mjolnir could easily be used to make the Destroyer's blasts more powerful.

All of that said, King Thor wouldn't need to use this tactic as this is already a spite thread.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The Destroyer's energy blasts don't come from Mjolnir so nothing is stopping him from directing the energy at the hammer so that he could amp it. So yes, Mjolnir could easily be used to make the Destroyer's blasts more powerful.

All of that said, King Thor wouldn't need to use this tactic as this is already a spite thread.


Reread my post and reply better.

Originally posted by h1a8

"Even if that were true we are reduced to arguing speculatively in two ways:

1. How a character usually fights, Thor never thought of this and actually threw the damn hammer away on panel believing it is inferior to the Destroyer. Thor doesn't amp his own energies at all.He only amps the energy he absorbed from an attack or the weather.

2. If somehow Mjolnir can tap into a device created by a high end skyfather to amp his power. I mean I would think Odin would have created the armor to amp his own power to maximum levels. Not sure if Mjolnir can handle Destroyer's energy without breaking.

But at least you are now starting to troll again."

Thor doesn't even amp his own energies so it would be out of character for him to even try it. Thor threw the hammer away for crying out loud. You haven't addressed this.

How is it spite when you were told of DD's feats?

Originally posted by h1a8
Reread my post and reply better.

Thor doesn't even amp his own energies so it would be out of character for him to even try it. Thor threw the hammer away for crying out loud. You haven't addressed this.

How is it spite when you were told of DD's feats?

Again, Mjonlir can absorb and amp energy, so there is no reason why Thor couldn't direct the Destroyer's energy blast into Mjolnir and amp it before firing.

However, King Thor wouldn't need to bother with such a tactic as this is already a spite thread against DD.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you going to explain to me how the hammer makes the Destroyer more powerful ?

Are you asking if Mjolnir directly amps the Destroyer Armor?

Or if the Destroyer having Mjolnir in its possession makes it overall more formidable?

Because, really, in spite of the Destroyer Armor being > Mjolnir typically, I'm legitimately baffled how anyone could think adding Mjolnir to the Armor wouldn't make it overall more powerful and formidable.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, Mjonlir can absorb and amp energy, so there is no reason why Thor couldn't direct the Destroyer's energy blast into Mjolnir and amp it before firing.

However, King Thor wouldn't need to bother with such a tactic as this is already a spite thread against DD.

You are not addressing my post just repeating yourself. Ill take it as concession accepted.

There are two reasons why Thor couldn't do it

1. It's not in his character, he doesn't absorb his own energies from within and amp them. He doesn't even think nor fight like that as he threw the hammer away thinking it was futile. He only amps blasts that he absorbed from enemies and from the weather. And the high majority of the time he only blocks blasts, not absorb them and send them back at 10fold. This fight isn't CIS off. I smell desperation.

2. Mjolnir might not can handle the Destroyer's energies period and break trying.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Are you asking if Mjolnir directly amps the Destroyer Armor?

Or if the Destroyer having Mjolnir in its possession makes it overall more formidable?

Because, really, in spite of the Destroyer Armor being > Mjolnir typically, I'm legitimately baffled how anyone could think adding Mjolnir to the Armor wouldn't make it overall more powerful and formidable.

Thikt!