HP Doomsday vs Destroyer

Originally posted by -Pr-
Does it?

I just hate seeing threads go round in circles... Well, more than usual.

I don't see why it would, seeing as summoning Mjolnir has always been a matter of will and Thor's will is intact while inhabiting the armor.

That was my thought too. Any scans that relate to it?

Originally posted by -Pr-
That was my thought too. Any scans that relate to it?

No scans that i have on me but during the Galactus / Odin battle when odin was animating the destroyer with his own soul he summoned mjolnir.

Well, I know regular Thor summoned it in Thor vol 2 issue 4. but without access to my collection I can't post any exact quotes.

Originally posted by Silent Master
The rest is just the usual h1a8 trolling, since he wasn't allowed to change the stips of the thread, he's now trying to claim that animating the Destroyer removes Thor's ability to summon Mjolnir.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Ok

Here is Thor using Mjolnir to teleport while in the Destroyer armor.

http://img257.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=80844_destr7_122_498lo.jpg

Rulk was able to use Mjolnir's abilities once he held the hammer, not before.
Captain America is shown to use Mjolnir's abilities AFTER he has picked up the hammer. Other character's who can pick up Thor's hammer CAN USE MJOLNIR'S ABILITIES. But they need to be in contact with the hammer.

It's speculation that the Destroyer can summon the hammer when Thor's body is not in the Destroyer (he's animating it from a distance).

Where does it say in comics that Destroyer can summon Mjolnir while Thor is animating it?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Well, I know regular Thor summoned it in Thor vol 2 issue 4. but without access to my collection I can't post any exact quotes.

On panel we see Thor picking up the hammer manually. This goes against the theory of him being able to summon it.

Originally posted by h1a8
In that comic it doesn't show Thor summoning Mjolnir in Destroyer's armor.

On panel we see Thor picking up the hammer manually. This goes against the theory of him being able to summon it.

Why? Was he in any forced to pick it up instead?

Originally posted by DarkOdin
No scans that i have on me but during the Galactus / Odin battle when odin was animating the destroyer with his own soul he summoned mjolnir.

Show the scan where he summoned Mjolnir while in Destroyer's armor.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why? Was he in any forced to pick it up instead?

The scan shows evidence that Destroyer may not be able to summon Mjolnir. It does not prove he couldn't. The thing is they claimed that Destroyer can summon Mjolnir and we have no showings anywhere in comics showing or stating this.

Silent is using the reasoning that if Destroyer can use Mjolnir's ability while holding the hammer then he can summon the hammer.

I disagree because we see lots of non Thor characters use Mjolnir's abilities but can't summon it.

But Odin summoned it, didn't he?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Why? Was he in any forced to pick it up instead?

No, he wasn't.

Originally posted by -Pr-
But Odin summoned it, didn't he?

Here it is Odin who summon's it IN HIS OWN BODY, not the Destroyer. Odin is summoning it while you see power kindling in his face.

Now you see Destroyer has Mjolnir but AFTER Odin summoned it while we was still in his OWN BODY.

Where does it say Odin was still in his own body?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Where does it say Odin was still in his own body?

In the second scan you see the power emanating from Odin's body. Thus Mjolnir is summoned from Odin's body and not from inside of Destroyer's body.

After Destroyer has caught the hammer you still see power coming from Odin's body.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Where does it say Odin was still in his own body?

It doesn't.

Originally posted by h1a8
In the second scan you see the power emanating from Odin's body. Thus Mjolnir is summoned from Odin's body and not from inside of Destroyer's body.

After Destroyer has caught the hammer you still see power coming from Odin's body.

I don't think so. It honestly looks to me like they're just representing that Odin is controlling the Destroyer. It's a story-telling mechanism.

It honestly seems like a big reach that he'd summon the hammer from within his own body, then jump in to the Destroyer just in time to catch it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't think so. It honestly looks to me like they're just representing that Odin is controlling the Destroyer. It's a story-telling mechanism.

It honestly seems like a big reach that he'd summon the hammer from within his own body, then jump in to the Destroyer just in time to catch it.

No the Destroyer can be animated without a soul. It has a mind of it's own. It was shown several times in comics to move and react before a soul possessed it.
Most likely we see that Odin is transferring the rest of his soul (hence the power from his head) into the Destroyer after the summon.

Either way, we see power from Odin's head after it left Thor's hand. That has to mean something.

Originally posted by h1a8
No the Destroyer can be animated without a soul. It has a mind of it's own. It was shown several times in comics to move and react before a soul possessed it.
Most likely we see that Odin is transferring the rest of his soul (hence the power from his head) into the Destroyer after the summon.

Either way, we see power from Odin's head after it left Thor's hand. That has to mean something.

I know how the Destroyer works. I don't agree with how you're saying it was portrayed in relation to Odin, that's all.

The power could easily be an artist's way of displaying that Odin is controlling it.

This lasted longer than expected. KT by himself would beat HP DD. Let alone adding the destroyer into the equation.