Originally posted by h1a8
Captain America can use Mjolnir's power AFTER holding it.
Rulk can use Mjolnir's power AFTER holding it.
Neither can summon it before they grab it.You still arguing this nonsense? Pr want's use to debate the fight. I provided an argument of why DD can win. If you still disagree then you should address my argument.
Neither of them start out with the ability to summon Mjolnir, Thor does.
Originally posted by h1a8IT was Odin in the destroyer just like when odinwent 2000ft destroyer odin's bodie went limp plus desotryer needs a soul in order to work
Yes I know. But again the power to control is coming from Odin's body and not Destroyer's body. He's not fully transferred into the Destroyer before the summon.If Odin summons Mjolnir from INSIDE of Destroyer's body then you would never see power coming from Odin's body after it left Thor's hand.
Originally posted by Silent MasterRulk never used mjolnir b/c he was not worthy he used the lack of gravity out of space to use mjolnir as a hammer as it voided the part of picking mjolnir up however since he was not worthy he couldn't use its power, Captain should be able to use it power however since he knows nothing about magic it might not be able too
Neither of them start out with the ability to summon Mjolnir, Thor does.
Originally posted by -Pr-
It's debatable tbh.==========
At this point, what I'm going to say is this:
It hasn't been definitively proven that the user can summon Mjolnir while animating the Destroyer (even though I think he can). This is of course open to change if anyone can produce a scan more definitive.
That said, the Destroyer wielding Mjolnir does get an amp due to the hammer itself, and would have access to all of the hammer's abilities (though recall after throwing it is where it gets sketchy).
Can we move on to the fight at hand, please?
actually the power is also see in destroyer as it was getting animated this was scene when loki was taking the seed out of destoyer so once again your wrong , how can you even debate when you didn't read the comic god man up and just admit your wrong or just stop posting nonsense
Originally posted by DarkOdin
IT was Odin in the destroyer just like when odinwent 2000ft destroyer odin's bodie went limp plus desotryer needs a soul in order to work
He knows that he can't back up his claim, so he's trying to shift the burden to us and say that his claims stand unless we can disprove it. We need to remember that as the one making the claim, h1a8 is the one that has to post proof.
So far, all he's posted is speculation.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Rulk never used mjolnir b/c he was not worthy he used the lack of gravity out of space to use mjolnir as a hammer as it voided the part of picking mjolnir up however since he was not worthy he couldn't use its power, Captain should be able to use it power however since he knows nothing about magic it might not be able too
It was easier just to point out the biggest flaw in his argument, sed flaw being that neither of them start out being able to use Mjolnir's powers...Thor does.
All his "arguments" are just fan speculation, he hasn't actually posted any proof that animating the Destroyer armor removes Thor's ability to summon Mjolnir.
Originally posted by Silent Master
It was easier just to point out the biggest flaw in his argument, sed flaw being that neither of them start out being able to use Mjolnir's powers...Thor does.All his "arguments" are just fan speculation, he hasn't actually posted any proof that animating the Destroyer armor removes Thor's ability to summon Mjolnir.
I am with you on that but it is still mind boggling how he still goes on
Originally posted by Silent Master
He knows that he can't back up his claim, so he's trying to shift the burden to us and say that his claims stand unless we can disprove it. We need to remember that as the one making the claim, h1a8 is the one that has to post proof.So far, all he's posted is speculation.
The burden is on the person who made the claim. Something is false if not proven true. In order for Mjolnir to be summoned from Destroyer you must show it being summoned from Destroyer. Pr told you this.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
actually the power is also see in destroyer as it was getting animated this was scene when loki was taking the seed out of destoyer so once again your wrong , how can you even debate when you didn't read the comic god man up and just admit your wrong or just stop posting nonsense
I posted the scans far before you did. It clearly shows power coming from Odin's head AFTER it already left Thor's hand.
Originally posted by DarkOdinOf course Rulk can use the power. You see lightning coming from the hammer clear as day.
Rulk never used mjolnir b/c he was not worthy he used the lack of gravity out of space to use mjolnir as a hammer as it voided the part of picking mjolnir up however since he was not worthy he couldn't use its power, Captain should be able to use it power however since he knows nothing about magic it might not be able too
Originally posted by DarkOdin
IT was Odin in the destroyer just like when odinwent 2000ft destroyer odin's bodie went limp plus desotryer needs a soul in order to work
It was many souls animating the Destroyer. Not just one.
Originally posted by Silent Masterexactly, that's why they can't summon it. Destroyer is the same, he can't do anything with Mjolnir unless it first come in contact with it.
Neither of them start out with the ability to summon Mjolnir, Thor does.
NO? Then prove that Destroyer can summon Mjolnir without first coming into contact with it.
Originally posted by h1a8Rulk Never used lighting with mjolnir know th e burden is on you and i iwll list the issue number on Odin was in the destroyer, but it is mute anyway b/c the armour needs a soul to be animtaed the yellow light that summon around mjolnir was the saem light first scene indestroyer not mjolnir nor odin's head
The burden is on the person who made the claim. Something is false if not proven true. In order for Mjolnir to be summoned from Destroyer you must show it being summoned from Destroyer. Pr told you this.I posted the scans far before you did. It clearly shows power coming from Odin's head AFTER it already left Thor's hand.
Of course Rulk can use the power. You see lightning coming from the hammer clear as day.
It was many souls animating the Destroyer. Not just one.
exactly, that's why they can't summon it. Destroyer is the same, he can't do anything with Mjolnir unless it first come in contact with it.
NO? Then prove that Destroyer can summon Mjolnir without first coming into contact with it.
Originally posted by Silent MasterI got two things working for me.
Yes, and you're the one that made the claim about Thor losing the ability to summon Mjolnir.Thus, the burden is on you.
1. A negative is automatically true unless proven otherwise.
Superman can't grow wings upon demand. Why? Because it isn't proven.
Thor can't sing the universe out of existence. Why? Because it isn't proven.
2. Second, I didn't make the initial claim, Jake did. You piggy backed on his argument (that's all you been doing). Get an original argument of your own and stop being someone's shadow. Follower!
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You kidding me?Thor summons it anyway.
Originally posted by DarkOdinNo it happened when Rulk jumped Thor to the moon. He grabbed the hammer in zero gravity from Thor and you see lightning emanating from it. Clear as day.
I recheck the Rulk battle the only lighting around Rulk is when Thor hit him with a lighting charged strike from mjolnir that Rulk absorbed
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Rulk Never used lighting with mjolnir know th e burden is on you and i iwll list the issue number on Odin was in the destroyer, but it is mute anyway b/c the armour needs a soul to be animtaed the yellow light that summon around mjolnir was the saem light first scene indestroyer not mjolnir nor odin's head
The fact that you see energy around Odin's head AFTER Mjolnir leaves Thor's hand means power/control is coming from Odin's body.
Originally posted by h1a8
I got two things working for me.1. A negative is automatically true unless proven otherwise.
Superman can't grow wings upon demand. Why? Because it isn't proven.
Thor can't sing the universe out of existence. Why? Because it isn't proven.2. Second, I didn't make the initial claim, Jake did. You piggy backed on his argument (that's all you been doing). Get an original argument of your own and stop being someone's shadow. Follower!
Incorrect, you're claiming that animating the Destroyer armor removes Thor's ability to summon Mjolnir, that means the burden is on you.
Originally posted by h1a8
No Jake said Destroyer can summon it. I said no he can't. He first claimed yes, I rebutted no.
No, Jack claimed that King Thor could summon Mjolnir, you on the other hand are claiming that animating the Destroyer somehow removes Thor's ability to summon Mjolnir.
Therefore the burden is on you.
Originally posted by h1a8Incorrect the we see odins head after mjolnir is summoned after destroyer receieves mjolnir we see yellow around odins head then around destroyer
The fact that you see energy around Odin's head AFTER Mjolnir leaves Thor's hand means power/control is coming from Odin's body.