Originally posted by Silent MasterLies. Both Thor and Odin didn't use their powers while in Destroyer's armor. Thor used Mjolnir's abilities after picking up the hammer. Power was coming from Odin's body after Mjolnir left Thor's hand.
That's just it though, both Thor and Odin have used their other powers while in the Destroyer armor, however despite this h1a8 is claiming that animating sed armor removes their ability to summon Mjolnir....yet all he posts is speculation.
Originally posted by h1a8
Pr we are arguing semantics. 'Proven' in the context I'm using means 'evidence to support'. If there is ZERO evidence to support something then explain why should we accept it as true?
We assume the positive unless the negative is proven. Even your earlier examples, for the most part, can be proven.
Originally posted by Silent Master
That's just it though, both Thor and Odin have used their other powers while in the Destroyer armor, however despite this h1a8 is claiming that animating sed armor removes their ability to summon Mjolnir....yet all he posts is speculation.
What kind of powers are we talking about?
Originally posted by h1a8
I disagree that it is PIS. Why can't Mjolnir be used in zero gravity. Maybe the enchantment is only for where there is gravity and doesn't work when no gravity exists. Writer's can do this. It doesn't contradict anything else on panel.
To be rudely honest, whether you agree or not is irrelevant. Since this really isn't debatable.
Because you have to be worthy to use it's power. Even King Thor with the entirety of the Odin Force at his command couldn't make Mjolnir's enchantment work for him. He had to be worthy.
ok...
The enchantment doesn't work in zero gravity as far as that it can be lifted. That's been done before by Ironman. So yes, the enchantment needs gravity for Mjolnir to not be lifted.
Its abilities can't be used however unless the user is worthy. Jeff Loeb, Red Hulk's creator, didn't give a flying phuck about Mjolnir. He was going to job Thor to make his boy look good and he did. If PIS had to happen then it would. And it did. That you would even TRY to defend that scene, to prove a non-existent point instead of admitting your wrong and going out like a man is absolutely pitiful.
Originally posted by h1a8
Lack of listing that power= zero evidence supporting it to be true. Think about it.
I have, you're still wrong. And it's not going to fly as a debating tactic either.
If you truly believe that everything, unless proven otherwise, is false, then that must be a horrible existence, tbh.
Originally posted by Damborgson
To be rudely honest, whether you agree or not is irrelevant. Since this really isn't debatable.Because you have to be worthy to use it's power. Even King Thor with the entirety of the Odin Force at his command couldn't make Mjolnir's enchantment work for him. He had to be worthy.
ok...
The enchantment doesn't work in zero gravity as far as that it can be lifted. That's been done before by Ironman. So yes, the enchantment needs gravity for Mjolnir to not be lifted.
Its abilities can't be used however unless the user is worthy. Jeff Loeb, Red Hulk's creator, didn't give a flying phuck about Mjolnir. He was going to job Thor to make his boy look good and he did. If PIS had to happen then it would. And it did. That you would even TRY to defend that scene, to prove a non-existent point instead of admitting your wrong and going out like a man is absolutely pitiful.
You don't see what you are doing. You are making stuff up. The writer has all the power. The only thing that robs the writer is the history. History>>>> one writer when they contradict each other. Here there is no contradiction.
Again, it is not against any rule or showing that the worthy enchantment is not entact in zero gravity.
Originally posted by h1a8
You don't see what you are doing. You are making stuff up. The writer has all the power. The only thing that robs the writer is the history. History>>>> one writer when they contradict each other. Here there is no contradiction.
Again, it is not against any rule or showing that the worthy enchantment is not entact in zero gravity.
Name a single part of my post that's been made up.
King Thor couldn't override the enchantment and use Mjolnir due to not being Worthy. The farthest he could go is levitate it with the Odin Force.
But a giant red Hulking mass of meat, can use its abilities despite an entire history contradicting the feat?
H1, I want you to answer truthfully. Do you HONESTLY, not see that showing as PIS? Or are you sticking to a dead argument do to some sort of last word complex?
Originally posted by -Pr-
I have, you're still wrong. And it's not going to fly as a debating tactic either.If you truly believe that everything, unless proven otherwise, is false, then that must be a horrible existence, tbh.
No, only in the fictional word Pr. Not in reality.
We just can't make stuff up right?
If I make a claim then I must show evidence supporting it. Isn't that forum rules?
My claim isn't ACCEPTED as true if there is no evidence anywhere to support it. Evidence can be in many forms.
Remember we are debating fictional things. (this stuff never happened)
You are 100% right when it comes to reality though. Something not known doesn't mean it isn't true. But it doesn't mean it is true either.
This is a big misunderstanding. You are not seeing what I am talking about. My word choice is sometimes poor but I know what I mean. Just can't explain it correctly. I didn't mean the negative is true but rather it shouldn't be accepted as true, in the fictional universe.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Name a single part of my post that's been made up.King Thor couldn't override the enchantment and use Mjolnir due to not being Worthy. The farthest he could go is levitate it with the Odin Force.
But a giant red Hulking mass of meat, can use its abilities despite an entire history contradicting the feat?
H1, I want you to answer truthfully. Do you HONESTLY, not see that showing as PIS? Or are you sticking to a dead argument do to some sort of last word complex?
King Thor wasn't in zero gravity. This is where the enchantment fails so says the writer. Doesn't contradict anything since the circumstances are different.
Originally posted by h1a8
King Thor wasn't in zero gravity. This is where the enchantment fails so says the writer. Doesn't contradict anything since the circumstances are different.
Zero gravity > Odin Force. Got you dude.
Let it be known throughout the land, H1 has spoken. And his opinions are backed up by unrelenting facts.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Zero gravity > Odin Force. Got you dude.Let it be known throughout the land, H1 has spoken. And his opinions are backed up by unrelenting facts.
Bad logic. It could be gravity that triggers the enchantment to not be used. Writers can do this. They have the power. No contradiction anywhere. Or maybe the powers are activated once someone is holding it.
Originally posted by h1a8
Bad logic. It could be gravity that triggers the enchantment to not be used. Writers can do this. They have the power. No contradiction anywhere. Or maybe the powers are activated once someone is holding it.
Originally posted by h1a8
We just can't make stuff up right?
If I make a claim then I must show evidence supporting it. Isn't that forum rules?
My claim isn't ACCEPTED as true if there is no evidence anywhere to support it. Evidence can be in many forms.Remember we are debating fictional things. (this stuff never happened)
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
[QUOTE=14128256]Originally posted by h1a8
[B]No, only in the fictional word Pr. Not in reality.
We just can't make stuff up right?
If I make a claim then I must show evidence supporting it. Isn't that forum rules?
My claim isn't ACCEPTED as true if there is no evidence anywhere to support it. Evidence can be in many forms.Remember we are debating fictional things. (this stuff never happened)
/quote] [/B]
Yet evidence supports it because you see Rulk using Mjolnir's powers in zero gravity.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Assuming it did, more evidence supports the contrary. And thus we go with the contrary.
So evidence supports Black Panther being stronger than Silver Surfer?
Originally posted by Silent Master
Just like evidence supports Spider-man > Firelord and Deathstroke having FTL reflexes, Cap being able to ko the Hulk etc etc etc
Yes but more evidence supports the contrary.