HP Doomsday vs Destroyer

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you back to claiming that it's the Destroyer and not the person animating it that is able to use Mjolnir abilities?

Because if you are, feel free to post examples where it's done so without being animated by someone that was worthy.

We don't know either way. Destroyer alone can lift the hammer (Thor is not needed). Rulk has used Mjolnir's abilities on panel before. So again we don't know.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Really, this thread should be closed for spite against Doomsday.
Right? I said that on page 18(or somewhere around there)

Rulk has absorbing powers, h1.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you believe so then what's the flaw of this argument:

1. DD is highly resistant against attacks (resisted the OE) and won't be one shot here.
2. DD heals instantly
3. DD becomes more resistant during the battle.
4. DD is powerful enough to damage the armor
5. DD is very fast and relentless.

Conclusion is DD eventually wins.

There are several flaws. One, BFR was not stated as being off, so even if you believe what you just said, King Thor can BFR Doomsday. Go back in time and prevent him from being made. Etc. Second, you're assuming just because he won't be one shot, it means he won't be defeated. I'll grant you he won't be one shot, but how does that translate into a win? Yeah, he's powerful enough to damage the armour. There's also a SKYFATHER In the freaking armour! Even if he could destroy it, he still has to deal with KING THOR.

Really your "argument" is just a bunch of vague opinions about Doomsday. King Thor in the Destroyer armour is going to punch a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

I can't believe I even have to argue this.

Originally posted by h1a8
We don't know either way. Destroyer alone can lift the hammer (Thor is not needed). Rulk has used Mjolnir's abilities on panel before. So again we don't know.

Again, you brought up the possibility of Thor losing his ability to summon Mjolnir as a way of removing Mjolnir from the thread...therefore you have to provide proof.

Thor separates himself from destroyer then puts DD in a full Nelson and let's the destroyer use him as a punching bag

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Really, this thread should be closed for spite against Doomsday.

Destroyer is not one shotting DD. DD is becoming more resistant during the battle. DD heals instantly if damaged at all. DD is much faster.
DD is powerful enough to damage the armor. Where's the spite?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Again, you brought up the possibility of Thor losing his ability to summon Mjolnir as a way of removing Mjolnir from the thread...therefore you have to provide proof.

How can Destroyer lose an ability it might not ever had? You are begging the question which is a fallacy in logic. You must first prove Destroyer had the ability all the time. Till then we don't know.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
Thor separates himself from destroyer then puts DD in a full Nelson and let's the destroyer use him as a punching bag

lol King Thor is not in the armor.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
There are several flaws. One, BFR was not stated as being off, so even if you believe what you just said, King Thor can BFR Doomsday. Go back in time and prevent him from being made. Etc. Second, you're assuming just because he won't be one shot, it means he won't be defeated. I'll grant you he won't be one shot, but how does that translate into a win? Yeah, he's powerful enough to damage the armour. There's also a SKYFATHER In the freaking armour! Even if he could destroy it, he still has to deal with KING THOR.

Really your "argument" is just a bunch of vague opinions about Doomsday. King Thor in the Destroyer armour is going to punch a hell of a lot harder than Doomsday.

I can't believe I even have to argue this.

If Destroyer can bfr DD then he wins. But how can Destroyer do this?

If DD can't be one shot or damaged fast enough then he can't lose (outside bfr).
This is because he heals instantly and becomes more resistant during the battle. So the second attack is less than the first, etc.

King Thor is not in the armor lol. His body is not in the battle.

Originally posted by h1a8
Destroyer is not one shotting DD.

Nobody has said he would, stop strawmanning.

How can Destroyer lose an ability it might not ever had?

Thor has the ability, you're trying to argue that he loses it...so start providing proof.

By animating the Destroyer Armour, I'm assuming he's inside of it. If the armour is destroyed, King Thor will be sitting there, much like Balder was.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Nobody has said he would, stop strawmanning.

Thor has the ability, you're trying to argue that he loses it...so start providing proof.

I'm not stawmanning. DD not being one shot or bfred insures him of not losing by nature. He gains more resistance and heals. Thus if you can't put him down in the beginning then you are not doing it later.

Thor has the ability when inside his body but this isn't Thor in this fight, it's the Destroyer.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
By animating the Destroyer Armour, I'm assuming he's inside of it. If the armour is destroyed, King Thor will be sitting there, much like Balder was.
No Thor's body is not in the Armor. He's only animating it.

Originally posted by h1a8
No Thor's body is not in the Armor. He's only animating it.

You are aware of course that the armor can be worn like actual armor, correct?

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm not stawmanning. DD not being one shot or bfred insures him of not losing by nature. He gains more resistance and heals. Thus if you can't put him down in the beginning then you are not doing it later.

DD only being able to lose via one-shot is just another argument that you've provided no proof for.

Thor has the ability when inside his body but this isn't Thor in this fight, it's the Destroyer.

You've provided no proof that Thor loses the ability to summon Mjolnir.

The stupidity in this thread has reach critical mass and there is no going back... close this thread for spite before we all die

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You are aware of course that the armor can be worn like actual armor, correct?
Thank you Jake!
Eff you H1

H1a8, you are arguing with (arguably) the most knowledgeable person in the 'comic versus forums' jakethebank!

Just give up.

And modz, just close.

Originally posted by armedforbattle
H1a8, you are arguing with (arguably) the most knowledgeable person in the 'comic versus forums' jakethebank!

Just give up.

And modz, just close.

I wouldn't go that far. mmm

But worship me nonetheless.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I wouldn't go that far. mmm

But worship me nonetheless.


I would, you know your stuff. Your not bias from what I can tell.
And you always come in with these gifs that make me lol everytime.

HAIL JAKE!

Originally posted by Silent Master
DD only being able to lose via one-shot is just another argument that you've provided no proof for.

You've provided no proof that Thor loses the ability to summon Mjolnir.

I first said other than bfr or some other funky means DD isn't losing if he's not one shot.

Loses implies had. This isn't Thor in this fight. Stop saying Thor. Thor is his soul and his body all in one. This is Destroyer's body with Thor's soul animating it.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You are aware of course that the armor can be worn like actual armor, correct?
Of course, i just posted a scan today showing this. OP says Thor is animating it, not in it. I'm becoming very knowledgable by the day Jake, watch out.

Originally posted by h1a8
I first said other than bfr or some other funky means DD isn't losing if he's not one shot.

Loses implies had. This isn't Thor in this fight. Stop saying Thor. Thor is his soul and his body all in one. This is Destroyer's body with Thor's soul animating it.

Of course, i just posted a scan today showing this. OP says Thor is animating it, not in it.

You have yet to provide any proof that DD can only lose via one-shot or that animating the armor causes Thor to lose his ability to summon Mjolnir.