Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
I just gave you an example. Hell, I give Windu his due. Khan does beat him with his phaser cannon.

The only example you have and that's only because they fought in the film with Windu coming out on top. Had it been a draw you would be burying him like you do anyone that goes against your favs. Hell you were quick to defend Kylo Ren when people said he looked weak losing to Rey but as soon as he was put up against Khan all of a sudden you jumped on the "He's weak, he lost to a girl" bandwagon.

Originally posted by juggerman
The only example you have and that's only because they fought in the film with Windu coming out on top. Had it been a draw you would be burying him like you do anyone that goes against your favs. Hell you were quick to defend Kylo Ren when people said he looked weak losing to Rey but as soon as he was put up against Khan all of a sudden you jumped on the "He's weak, he lost to a girl" bandwagon.

I knew people would think I'd be a huge Kylo Ren fan and I only feel he's better than Vader. I'm sure he will be a lot better but the guy is no Khan Noonien Singh.

I've always favored Maul over Kenobi. You can't put my opinion in a box.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Hogwarts shield break despite the wand resisting him. Beat that feat.

https://youtu.be/A0iQJXEaa28

This spell (incantation unknown) is used to break magical protections. It takes a vast quantity of power to cast. It was used by Lord Voldemort in 1998 to break the defensive enchantments cast over Hogwarts Castle during the Battle of Hogwarts. This is the shield spell Voldmeort used in DHPt2

All credit to the makers of the Harry Potter spell list and their followers for this list. So you see this spell is designed to break shields. Combined with the facts that it,was made by four wizards instead of hundreds or,thousands, the sheild was already broken, and he did break the wand.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
https://youtu.be/A0iQJXEaa28

Originally posted by quanchi112
That isn't more powerful and those inferi were weak. Burning fleshy beings with fire isn't that impressive. Albus' wand also didn't resist him.

Look at my post again had to add a little more to it.

https://youtu.be/A0iQJXEaa28

This spell (incantation unknown) is used to break magical protections. It takes a vast quantity of power to cast. It was used by Lord Voldemort in 1998 to break the defensive enchantments cast over Hogwarts Castle during the Battle of Hogwarts. This is the shield spell Voldmeort used in DHPt2

All credit to the makers of the Harry Potter spell list and their followers for this list. So you see this spell is designed to break shields. Combined with the facts that it,was made by four wizards instead of hundreds or,thousands, the sheild was already broken, and he did break the wand.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Look at my post again had to add a little more to it.

https://youtu.be/A0iQJXEaa28

This spell (incantation unknown) is used to break magical protections. It takes a vast quantity of power to cast. It was used by Lord Voldemort in 1998 to break the defensive enchantments cast over Hogwarts Castle during the Battle of Hogwarts. This is the shield spell Voldmeort used in DHPt2

All credit to the makers of the Harry Potter spell list and their followers for this list. So you see this spell is designed to break shields. Combined with the facts that it,was made by four wizards instead of hundreds or,thousands, the sheild was already broken, and he did break the wand.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You haven't proven this was the spell and even if that were the case he'd have overcame a spell by multiple wizards which is far greater than Dumbledore's spell.

IN the quote it directly says IT WAS USED BY LORD VOLDMELRT IN 1998 TO TAKE DOWN THE SHIELD.

4 wizards, one of which hadn't been in the comabative game for years(Molly) and the sheild was already broken from his HUNDREDS of death eaters

Shield penetration spell - Harry Potter Wiki - Wikia
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It was used by Lord Voldemort in 1998 to break the defensive enchantments cast over Hogwarts Castle during the Battle of Hogwarts. ... Voldemort breaking the shield causing the Elder Wand to crack. ... The spell that Voldemort uses upon retrieving the Elder Wand from Dumbledore's tomb in ...

Originally posted by quanchi112
DD tried killing him twice. Bellatrix left. You seem kind of clueless, new guy.

Voldemort wins.

Didn't realize you're one of the most dedicated troll on this forum. So, you get a pass. No further time wasted.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
IN the quote it directly says IT WAS USED BY LORD VOLDMELRT IN 1998 TO TAKE DOWN THE SHIELD.

4 wizards, one of which hadn't been in the comabative game for years(Molly) and the sheild was already broken from his HUNDREDS of death eaters

Shield penetration spell - Harry Potter Wiki - Wikia
Wikia › harrypotter › wiki › Shield_pene...
It was used by Lord Voldemort in 1998 to break the defensive enchantments cast over Hogwarts Castle during the Battle of Hogwarts. ... Voldemort breaking the shield causing the Elder Wand to crack. ... The spell that Voldemort uses upon retrieving the Elder Wand from Dumbledore's tomb in ...

The spell was resisted by hundreds of wizards and you still haven't proven it. You made a baseless claim and bragged about Dumbledore using a fire spell against corpses. 😂

Originally posted by michaelx
Didn't realize you're one of the most dedicated troll on this forum. So, you get a pass. No further time wasted.

Concession accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The spell was resisted by hundreds of wizards and you still haven't proven it. You made a baseless claim and bragged about Dumbledore using a fire spell against corpses. 😂

Yes it was resisted by hundreds of wizards and thus was already damaged thus reducing the feat, then this spell is specifically made to destroy shield charms. The proof was in the last post.

Firestorm>Voldmeort

Dumbledore severely weakened by both the drink and the curse in his hand, yet he filled the entire room with real fire that can even go underwater, and was able to keep it going without wand motion and put a gap in it whilst not using the wand.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_penetration_spell

Here's your proof.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Yes it was resisted by hundreds of wizards and thus was already damaged thus reducing the feat, then this spell is specifically made to destroy shield charms. The proof was in the last post.

Firestorm>Voldmeort

Dumbledore severely weakened by both the drink and the curse in his hand, yet he filled the entire room with real fire that can even go underwater, and was able to keep it going without wand motion and put a gap in it whilst not using the wand.

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Shield_penetration_spell

Here's your proof.

Voldemort was weakened by the horcrux being destroyed. You always ignore the context. Dumbledore used a firespell against corpses. Voldemort overcame magic itself while weakened and while the wand resisted him.

Voldemort by direct comparison to hundreds of other wizards has the greatest feat. 💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculative nonsense.

Voldemort was weakened by the horcrux being destroyed. You always ignore the context. Dumbledore used a firespell against corpses. Voldemort overcame magic itself while weakened and while the wand resisted him.

Voldemort by direct comparison to hundreds of other wizards has the greatest feat. 💃

https://youtu.be/p_S-XrrRtn4 2:37, 2:40-2:42, 2:46-2:48, 3:04

The first three are the individual shots of the three making the shield. The 3:04 is the wide shot where we're a fourth beam thus deducing there were four people who made the sheild.

In the same video at 4:14-4:26 we see his army shoot and attack the shield. It's no longer in 100% peak condition due to being attacked.

Actaully he wasn't. There is no evidence that he was indeed weakend. If you can bring in movie proof saying he was then yea. Also that would make him stronger for a moment or two due to the fact that he was drawing in anger and rage and we've seen with dark siders of all sides SW, HP, Magic in general it's all geared by emotion. Lupin made it clear with his speech to Harry in Prisoner of Azkaban when he makes his patronus.

Now are any of those wizards Albus Dumbleodre? 💃

No. Voldmeorts feat was done while he was angered with a spell speciffacly designed to take down the shield after it was already damaged and made by people he is more powerful than, one of which he even dueled in the books with three other people at his side.

Dumbleodre by contrast used a spell while he was severely weakened by his condition and drinking the water, yet the spell filled the entire cave with fire that could injure and continued without a wand. This is done I win as always.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
https://youtu.be/p_S-XrrRtn4 2:37, 2:40-2:42, 2:46-2:48, 3:04

The first three are the individual shots of the three making the shield. The 3:04 is the wide shot where we're a fourth beam thus deducing there were four people who made the sheild.

In the same video at 4:14-4:26 we see his army shoot and attack the shield. It's no longer in 100% peak condition due to being attacked.

Actaully he wasn't. There is no evidence that he was indeed weakend. If you can bring in movie proof saying he was then yea. Also that would make him stronger for a moment or two due to the fact that he was drawing in anger and rage and we've seen with dark siders of all sides SW, HP, Magic in general it's all geared by emotion. Lupin made it clear with his speech to Harry in Prisoner of Azkaban when he makes his patronus.

Now are any of those wizards Albus Dumbleodre? 💃

No. Voldmeorts feat was done while he was angered with a spell speciffacly designed to take down the shield after it was already damaged and made by people he is more powerful than, one of which he even dueled in the books with three other people at his side.

Dumbleodre by contrast used a spell while he was severely weakened by his condition and drinking the water, yet the spell filled the entire cave with fire that could injure and continued without a wand. This is done I win as always.

Dumbledore's wand didn't resist him and he was against comprises not against other wizards magic resisting. Voldemort's feat is head and shoulders above it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He isn't weak as **** and is better than Vader but getting his ass kicked by a girl is kind of shameful.

I knew people would think I'd be a huge Kylo Ren fan and I only feel he's better than Vader. I'm sure he will be a lot better but the guy is no Khan Noonien Singh.

I've always favored Maul over Kenobi. You can't put my opinion in a box.

Yet you defend him unless he's against your fav. Your bias is clear

I don't care if you loved or hated him. I care that you are clearly inconsistent and biased but try accuse others of it.

Again there is an actual battle between Maul and Kenobi. Not the case here

Originally posted by juggerman
Yet you defend him unless he's against your fav. Your bias is clear

I don't care if you loved or hated him. I care that you are clearly inconsistent and biased but try accuse others of it.

Again there is an actual battle between Maul and Kenobi. Not the case here

When am I inconsistent ?

That is the case here between Voldemort and Dumbledore.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I believe based off the evidence Khan kills him. Period.

When am I inconsistent ?

That is the case here between Voldemort and Dumbledore.

That's fine but no need to troll about it

When you ignore context when it suits you but cling to it when it benefits your side. Also you have brought up all the context surrounding the Kylo vs Rey fight when you defended him but against Khan you ignored all the context.

Dumbledore was superior in their fight seeing as how he was distracted and still scored the only legit hit in the match.

Also I said:

Originally posted by juggerman
I don't care if you loved or hated him. I care that you are clearly inconsistent and biased but try accuse others of it.

And you asked:

Originally posted by quanchi112
When am I inconsistent ?

Kinda tells me that you have accepted that you are biased 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
That's fine but no need to troll about it

When you ignore context when it suits you but cling to it when it benefits your side. Also you have brought up all the context surrounding the Kylo vs Rey fight when you defended him but against Khan you ignored all the context.

Dumbledore was superior in their fight seeing as how he was distracted and still scored the only legit hit in the match.

I didn't ignore it. That does factor in but so does the behavior of the characters. He has critical errors in combat. He doesn't have much room for error against Khan whose weapons kill armored foes very efficiently.

When was he distracted ? He was completely focused on Voldemort in their duel. By the same point Voldemort was trying to attack Harry and later did effectively through possession.

Originally posted by quanchi112
When was I trolling ?

I didn't ignore it. That does factor in but so does the behavior of the characters. He has critical errors in combat. He doesn't have much room for error against Khan whose weapons kill armored foes very efficiently.

When was he distracted ? He was completely focused on Voldemort in their duel. By the same point Voldemort was trying to attack Harry and later did effectively through possession.

Really?

You did ignore it. I can post the links if you'd like. You fought against a stance in one thread and then took the same exact stance you fought against in another.

So you missed the part where Albus was protecting Harry did you? Tom was single minded in his attempt at achieving his goal(killing Dumbledore which he stated) and he failed. After he failed he switched it up. Hardly the same