Voldemort vs. Albus Dumbledore

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah.

Still knocked him on his ass.

Wrong. You raised the question which was silly. Harry did so through aid of he and the friends there. Quit ignoring all the context.

Nope.

To no avail.

You claimed Dumbledore "failed to stop the possession". That would only be true had he tried. You failed again

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope.

To no avail.

You claimed Dumbledore "failed to stop the possession". That would only be true had he tried. You failed again

Still put him in a submissive position.

So you're saying he let Harry fight him alone when he could have ? Do we ever see Dumbledore show possession preventing magical abilities ?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yep.

Still put him in a submissive position.

So you're saying he let Harry fight him alone when he could have ? Do we ever see Dumbledore show possession preventing magical abilities ?

Nope.

Voldemort in the bubble was much more submissive. He was at Albus' mercy for a good while

He coached Harry to the win. I never said he could or couldn't prevent it. Albus succeeded in what he chose to do. Fact

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope.

Voldemort in the bubble was much more submissive. He was at Albus' mercy for a good while

He coached Harry to the win. I never said he could or couldn't prevent it. Albus succeeded in what he chose to do. Fact

No, Voldemort wasn't as he broke free and poured on the attack.

It doesn't make any sense he would subject Harry to that terror. He did what he could along with Harry's friends. Quit ignoring the totality of the situation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

No, Voldemort wasn't as he broke free and poured on the attack.

It doesn't make any sense he would subject Harry to that terror. He did what he could along with Harry's friends. Quit ignoring the totality of the situation.

No

He got out cuz Harry broke Dumbledore's concentration

Again I'm not arguing whether or not Dumbledore could have or could not have stopped it himself. That's a pointless stance to take. The fact is Albus, and Albus alone talked to Harry which gave him the "boost" he needed to defeat Tom. Fact

Originally posted by juggerman
No

He got out cuz Harry broke Dumbledore's concentration

Again I'm not arguing whether or not Dumbledore could have or could not have stopped it himself. That's a pointless stance to take. The fact is Albus, and Albus alone talked to Harry which gave him the "boost" he needed to defeat Tom. Fact

No, that doesn't make any sense based off the skills of Albus. Albus knew he broke free from the gesture of his wand and wanted Harry away from him because he knew Voldemort was going to counter. What I say makes sense what you say doesn't.

Harry saw his friends there and don't you dare try to take away from the impact of all those present. They all mattered to him not just Albus. I'm ****ing amazing .

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

No, that doesn't make any sense based off the skills of Albus. Albus knew he broke free from the gesture of his wand and wanted Harry away from him because he knew Voldemort was going to counter. What I say makes sense what you say doesn't.

Harry saw his friends there and don't you dare try to take away from the impact of all those present. They all mattered to him not just Albus. I'm ****ing amazing .

Nope. You're way makes more sense only to you. Voldemort couldn't escape before the assist.

Which of his friend's coached him?

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope. You're way makes more sense only to you. Voldemort couldn't escape before the assist.

Which of his friend's coached him?

No, we see he moves things with his wand and as he moves it forward why wouldn't the same logic be held ?

You want to assume Albus is an idiot and fumbled that spell when he isn't portrayed in that manner at all.

Albus coached as well as his friends inspired him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

No, we see he moves things with his wand and as he moves it forward why wouldn't the same logic be held ?

You want to assume Albus is an idiot and fumbled that spell when he isn't portrayed in that manner at all.

Albus coached as well as his friends inspired him.

Nope.

We see him stuck in the water until Albus has to use one of his hands to force push Harry. So Voldemort escaped because Harry assisted.

So the path Albus decided to take worked.

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope.

We see him stuck in the water until Albus has to use one of his hands to force push Harry. So Voldemort escaped because Harry assisted.

So the path Albus decided to take worked.

So now you're saying he escaped because Harry assisted in freeing him. 😂

We see Voldemort gesture forward and upon seeing this Dumbledore knocks Harry backwards because he knows what will occur next. You want to act like first Albus' concentration is pitiful and next that Harry aided the dark lord.

Albus had aid whereas Voldemort did not. No proof Albus could have magically prevented that. 💃

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

So now you're saying he escaped because Harry assisted in freeing him. 😂

We see Voldemort gesture forward and upon seeing this Dumbledore knocks Harry backwards because he knows what will occur next. You want to act like first Albus' concentration is pitiful and next that Harry aided the dark lord.

Albus had aid whereas Voldemort did not. No proof Albus could have magically prevented that. 💃

No

I've said that since the beginning. That fact that you are just now understanding is astounding actually

We see Tom trapped. We see him not able to escape. We see Albus stop fully focusing on Tom to push Harry. Then and only then do we see Voldemort escape. I will say Voldemort took full advantage of the opening Harry gave him. Kudos

Albus did what he needed to do. You trying to shift the goalpost is telling.

Originally posted by juggerman
No

I've said that since the beginning. That fact that you are just now understanding is astounding actually

We see Tom trapped. We see him not able to escape. We see Albus stop fully focusing on Tom to push Harry. Then and only then do we see Voldemort escape. I will say Voldemort took full advantage of the opening Harry gave him. Kudos

Albus did what he needed to do. You trying to shift the goalpost is telling.

No, your story has changed. You said Albus' concentration broke now it's Harry assisted Voldemort.

We see Volde let gesture with his wand and we see Albus knock Harry back but you say no Albus' concentration broke because Harry assisted Voldemort.

That doesn't make any sense.

He did what he could in the situation he was in. That's accurate but your stances change like the wind.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

No, your story has changed. You said Albus' concentration broke now it's Harry assisted Voldemort.

We see Volde let gesture with his wand and we see Albus knock Harry back but you say no Albus' concentration broke because Harry assisted Voldemort.

That doesn't make any sense.

He did what he could in the situation he was in. That's accurate but your stances change like the wind.

Nope.

Are you really that dumb that you can't see they are one in the same? Dumbledore's concentration broke BECAUSE Harry wondered too close to the fight. He inadvertently caused Dumbledore to shift focus and allowed Voldemort escape. It's not hard to understand

Ah so you admit they are the same but you claim I changed stances. You're trolling and you can't even stay consistent in the same post anymore

He did what he needed to do and it worked. Harry was able to hand Voldemort his ass due to Dumbledore's last minute impromptu coaching. Nice 👆

Originally posted by juggerman
Nope.

Are you really that dumb that you can't see they are one in the same? Dumbledore's concentration broke [b]BECAUSE Harry wondered too close to the fight. He inadvertently caused Dumbledore to shift focus and allowed Voldemort escape. It's not hard to understand

Ah so you admit they are the same but you claim I changed stances. You're trolling and you can't even stay consistent in the same post anymore

He did what he needed to do and it worked. Harry was able to hand Voldemort his ass due to Dumbledore's last minute impromptu coaching. Nice 👆 [/B]

No, he knew Voldemort was going to break free because of previous canon establishing that gesturing with the wand creates force. You're ignoring Voldemort's hand movements and Dumbledore's skill level to sell your wishful thinking.

I'm the only one consistent. You're ignoring the totality of the scene.

Harry laid on his backside while Voldemort talked down to him. That isn't handing someone their ass, boy. Lean what sayings mean and quit trolling.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

No, he knew Voldemort was going to break free because of previous canon establishing that gesturing with the wand creates force. You're ignoring Voldemort's hand movements and Dumbledore's skill level to sell your wishful thinking.

I'm the only one consistent. You're ignoring the totality of the scene.

Harry laid on his backside while Voldemort talked down to him. That isn't handing someone their ass, boy. Lean what sayings mean and quit trolling.

No

Voldemort was flailing around due to being at Dumbledore's mercy. Your wishful thinking doesn't change that

Your inconsistency is legendary

Harry thwarted Voldemort easily once he realized how to. Vold "talking down" was just his was of saving face after he was thoroughly beaten. "Yeah you may have won but I got my hits in too so boo-yah" type nonsense

Originally posted by juggerman
No

Voldemort was flailing around due to being at Dumbledore's mercy. Your wishful thinking doesn't change that

Your inconsistency is legendary

Harry thwarted Voldemort easily once he realized how to. Vold "talking down" was just his was of saving face after he was thoroughly beaten. "Yeah you may have won but I got my hits in too so boo-yah" type nonsense

He countered, broke free, and had Dumbledore in a submissive position like a *****.

Projecting.

He resisted but needed inspiration, etc. to do so. That's the thing and the point. It was always heroes against Voldemort. That's what a great villain is. Albus isn't as great as Voldemort is.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

He countered, broke free, and had Dumbledore in a submissive position like a *****.

Projecting.

He resisted but needed inspiration, etc. to do so. That's the thing and the point. It was always heroes against Voldemort. That's what a great villain is. Albus isn't as great as Voldemort is.

Then Voldmoert ran like a b****

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Duel_in_the_Ministry_Atrium

Let's see the laughs we get with this.

This does give some insight about the fight and its quite interesting. Just go to the movies part. It's based solely on the movie, not books or anything the movie section. Do with it what you will.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes.

He countered, broke free, and had Dumbledore in a submissive position like a *****.

Projecting.

He resisted but needed inspiration, etc. to do so. That's the thing and the point. It was always heroes against Voldemort. That's what a great villain is. Albus isn't as great as Voldemort is.

No.

He took advantage of Harry inadvertently distracting Albus. Tom was at his mercy

Yes you are

Albus helped Harry easily best Tom at his own game. Weak

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Then Voldmoert ran like a b****