His other joints might have not been as painful to him.
Cos it hurts to wear. He cried like a whiny ***** when he put it on.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Get back to me on that, woodja?.
It was just a knee brace, started about mid thigh and end a bit under the knee.
The bricks he kicks were already crumbling and he didn't break all that much
Originally posted by Davis Bloome
I'd go with the Joker, but they're pretty much neck & neck for me. The best thing is that they're two completely different villains with completely different tactics & ways of handling their plans.I'll always love the unpredictable nature of Heath's Joker, but I also loved how Hardy's Bane perfectly blends intelligence with power.
Talia was the only one with a fricken plan and it failed.
The Joker's plans don't fail because he doesn't have any.
Originally posted by DolosI love how people are like the Joker didn't have a plan, of course he had a plan. His plan was to get Gotham's people to kill themselves to show them their true selves which failed and you can tell his plan failed by the look on the Joker's face afterwards. He just told Harvey all that hogwash about chaos to get him to do what he wanted.
Talia was the only one with a fricken plan and it failed.The Joker's plans don't fail because he doesn't have any.
Originally posted by RobtardPeople still feared the Batman, I mean that one cop who shot Bruce's emp gun about peed himself when Batman gave him the are you serious face. So obviously people were still afraid of him.
Batman was torn, shredded and broken by the start of Rises. He had been retired for years (possibly presumed dead) and Gordon had cleaned up the streets using Dent's death and faulty hero-status as the push to galvanize all of Gotham against crime(key element of the end of Returns). Criminals didn't fear Batman any longer and he wasn't a symbol for good. Cos of the Joker. Why Gordon wanted to tell the truth during his speech in Rises.No, it was evident at the end that Talia was pulling the strings all along. From Wayne losing his fortune and so forth.
He also took out multiple armed gunmen trained in the League of Shadows ways. That would by far be his best group fighting feat.
As for the brace you find a brick pillar that looks the same as the one in that shot and try and kick it apart and tell me how far you get down on it. My guess not very far at least not without a broken foot.
As for the Talia reveal nothing in the shots or aftermath contradicts anything Bane did.
She never said, "Oh look Bruce I'm the one who planned this all. I'm the one who did all the calculations." It's pretty obvious Bane was quite intelligent and obviously doing a lot of the heavy work for Talia, like planning, running the operations, and putting all the steps together.
I mean she may have put the overall plan together but it's pretty obvious Bane was the one making it work.
Unless you think while she was pretending to be a Gotham socialite for years trying to convince Bruce to give her the new energy source she found time to plan complex snatch and grabs, to the detail, as well as get all the contracts and business people together to rig all of gotham to blow up like it did, while sneaking all the men into gotham with heavy weapons.
I think at best Talia was more of a figure head, and she was like Bane I need Batman's armory make it happen. Bane I want this scientist make it happen. Bane this is my plan make it happen.
Originally posted by Newjak
Technically a villain does not have to be a person it just has to be a thing that is labeled evil, or opposes the protagonist. Boom the bomb was that 😛Talia was the person pulling Bane's strings but I think it was pretty clear it was Bane doing the heavy lifting and planning and executing of everything. Either way this is a pointless argument. Quan was pretty clearly trying to say Bane was the biggest villain in the movie and the one doing the most damage.
Bomb wasn't evil. That would be like saying Talia's daggar was evil too. And the bomb didn't oppose anything. It just let everybody use it and throw it away. Like a WHORE!!! 😱
I know what quan was saying and i was disagreeing. Bane was a henchmen. I very smart, very capable, very powerful HENCHMEN. And boom goes the dynamite
Originally posted by juggermanSo you believe Batman's main adversary in the movie was Talia ?
Originally posted by RobtardNo, those are just the recurring villains. They aren't his ultimate enemies just the frequented ones.
Luthor is Superman's arch-nemesis. This is a fact and can't be argued.The Joker is Batman's arch-nemesis. This is a fact and can't be argued.
Just stop talking. Okay.
Death of Superman--Doomsday, pal. He broke Superman. Luthor hasn't. Luthor just cooks up plans for years and always comes up short.
Batman was broken in combat by Bane not Joker. Joker might plague him more but having his back broken in combat >>>>Joker.
Now sit down Rob or I will have to embarrass you again.
Originally posted by Tzeentch._Laughable. Joker was easily taken in by Batman.
He didn't tear through everything Bruce built Batman up to be, because by the time TDK: R came around, almost everything Batman had, both from a physical perspective and a symbolic perspective, was already gone. By the time Bruce Wayne even got to the Joker, he was a broken man.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker deferred to him which kinda makes him his unofficial boss. Some uneventful showdown in an alley isn't greater than an event which almost takes gotham off the map.Bane>>>Joker the crossdresser.
Joker "created" him and let him run amok. Hardly makes him a boss. Villian yes but not boss
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, those are just the recurring villains. They aren't his ultimate enemies just the frequented ones.Death of Superman--Doomsday, pal. He broke Superman. Luthor hasn't. Luthor just cooks up plans for years and always comes up short.
Batman was broken in combat by Bane not Joker. Joker might plague him more but having his back broken in combat >>>>Joker.
Now sit down Rob or I will have to embarrass you again. Laughable. Joker was easily taken in by Batman.
LoL. So utterly wrong.
You need to read some comics, or in the very least do a few minutes of internetting. A hero getting his ass kicked doesn't mean the ass-kicker is his/her arch nemesis by that merit alone.
You're too busy embarrassing yourself with wrongness, so slow down before you take on another task.
Originally posted by RobtardEach of these mega events needed someone badass enough to do so. It wasn't their recurring baddie. It was someone who took them to the brink. The Batman trilogy also makes it clear. Bane was the final main antagonist not Joker. Joker was someone he easily took out.
LoL. So utterly wrong.You need to read some comics, or in the very least do a few minutes of internetting. A hero getting his ass kicked doesn't mean the ass-kicker is his/her arch nemesis by that merit alone.
You're too busy embarrassing yourself with wrongness, so slow down before you take on another task.
Originally posted by juggermanJoker gave him the chance to take his own life. That's something a boss can do. Best part is this final villain thing backfired on you.
Joker "created" him and let him run amok. Hardly makes him a boss. Villian yes but not boss
Bane broke Batman on screen. Joker was someone batman easily rounded up.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Each of these mega events needed someone badass enough to do so. It wasn't their recurring baddie. It was someone who took them to the brink.
You can moan all you like, it's not going to change the canonical fact that The Joker and Luther are respectively Batman's and Superman's arch nemesis. Read some comics, man.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker gave him the chance to take his own life. That's something a boss can do. Best part is this final villain thing backfired on you.Bane broke Batman on screen. Joker was someone batman easily rounded up.
A boss needs someone to allow them the opportunity to kill them? Wow quan. Just wow. Bosses don't get permission to do things. Two Face needed permission. Just WOW
Originally posted by juggermanHe didn't need permission. Giving someone the opportunity to take your life means he was the boss of his life. That's called owning someone.
A boss needs someone to allow them the opportunity to kill them? Wow quan. Just wow. Bosses don't get permission to do things. Two Face needed permission. Just WOW
Originally posted by NemeBroDue to being a recurring villain. Pay attention to what it is I am saying you hick.
Joker killed Jason Todd.He crippled Barbara.
Joker has psychologically ****ed with Batman in ways Bane could not even ****ing dream of, going by the comics, you stupid mongoloid.