Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
"Simpleton" logic works perfectly here...Despite everything you posted, you proved my point; there is a power beyond that of the IG (thanx for agreeing with me btw)...
Therefore the Infinity Being was not GOD and the IG makes you master over nothing...
Simpleton logic...known otherwise as [b]common sense
...you might want to read up on it.It really is that simple; if something...anything is beyond you, you arent GOD nor are you all-powerful...common sense Mr Master...common sense. [/B]
Powers above the IG itself yes... kinda. Without someone wielding them they are not being utilized to their full potential obviously.
On the hand of ones ilk as THANOS, it's powers are only limited by his being. Where that ceiling is, is unknown.
Originally posted by ThereIsHopeAltering his soul or mind. These threads don't have to be just about power and tanking blasts. The ig knows what is coming next and controls space making Thanos unhittable by Am's abilities.
The creation blast is a multiversal blast yes or no? Is the IG multiversal? If its not then how does IG win?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Altering his soul or mind. These threads don't have to be just about power and tanking blasts. The ig knows what is coming next and controls space making Thanos unhittable by Am's abilities.
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Or how about warping reality so that creation blast turns into confetti. Or going back in time to the point before AM started destroying/absorbing universes.
It's too much stock being placed in a blast that Thanos has multiple counters for.
Originally posted by SundippedAgreed. The possibilities of what Thanos can do is pretty much endless.
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Or how about warping reality so that creation blast turns into confetti. Or going back in time to the point before AM started destroying/absorbing universes.It's too much stock being placed in a blast that Thanos has multiple counters for.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The power behind it isn't finite. It doesn't matter anyway as Thanos controls space thus making Am unable to hit him. He can alter reality and Am at will. This is a stomp.
Thanos has some control over space with the IG, but not complete mastery over it; the AM hitting him is well within reason as a result..
As for manipulating him directly, the AM tanked something that is theoretically greater than the complete IG already; the Creation Blast (afterall, the gems are a fragment of all reality)...
This is especially true since the IG:
a) doesnt make you GOD (nor is it all-powerful)...
b) is NOT formed from the remnants of GODS might...
c) is less than the totality of all existence...
Creation Blast>>the complete IG.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThanos does have complete mastery over it. Am doesn't have any mastery over it so as it pertains to this thread he has no chance of even glazing against him if Thanos doesn't allow it.
Thanos has some control over space with the IG, but not complete mastery over it; the AM hitting him is well within reason as a result..As for manipulating him directly, the AM tanked something that is theoretically greater than the complete IG already; the Creation Blast (afterall, the gems are a fragment of all reality)...
This is especially true since the IG:
a) doesnt make you GOD (nor is it all-powerful)...
b) is NOT formed from the remnants of GODS might...
c) is less than the totality of all existence...
Creation Blast>>the complete IG.
That's just a force blast. It's like saying Namor tanked a nuke so he can't be mindraped. It's entirely different.
Prove the creation blast is greater than the ig since that is what basically formed the ig. You need to back your claims.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos does have complete mastery over it. Am doesn't have any mastery over it so as it pertains to this thread he has no chance of even glazing against him if Thanos doesn't allow it.That's just a force blast. It's like saying Namor tanked a nuke so he can't be mindraped. It's entirely different.
Prove the creation blast is greater than the ig since that is what basically formed the ig. You need to back your claims.
I've already back up my claims; you simply phail when it comes to reading comprehension...
There are powers equal to or greater than the complete IG (completely true statement)...
Since the above is a true statement, the IG being the core of GODS might cant possibly be true...now can it?
So no, the IG is not all-powerful, gives mastery over nothing, and the "Infinity" Being that died to start up the Big Bang didnt actually give rise to all of creation as there are powers equal to or greater than it is...
This kind of reasoning power is beyond you though...isnt it Quan?
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderFalse as someone actually posted proof the Lt represents the writer and the Lt is not Am either. Am's power was definitely finite. He leeched his powers off of the heroes prior to the event iirc. He was anything but infinite in power unlike the ig which is inexhaustible.
I've already back up my claims; you simply phail when it comes to reading comprehension...There are powers equal to or greater than the complete IG (completely true statement)...
Since the above is a true statement, the IG being the core of GODS might cant possibly be true...now can it?
So no, the IG is not all-powerful, gives mastery over nothing, and the "Infinity" Being that died to start up the Big Bang didnt actually give rise to all of creation as there are powers equal to or greater than it is...
This kind of reasoning power is beyond you though...isnt it Quan?
It does give the wielder control over those aspects. Cite proof claiming it doesn't. You are simply making one unfounded claim to the next.
You also failed to address my comparison of mindrape to a nuke.
The LT is greater than the IG (demostrated on panel)...
Scathan is greater than the LT (and thus is greater than the IG)...
A lone CCU is theoretically equal to a complete IG...
So you see, you dont need "GODS" backing to be equal to or greater than the IG...
With those FACTS in mind, the IG is very finite, is definitely NOT "inexhaustable," and really is in the same boat as Dawn of Time Anti-Monitor...but lacks the raw horsepower that the AM possessed.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThanos is the supreme being of that reality that's not to say he's the most powerful being from all realities. Lt receives power from the writer anyway. Scathan did so against an inexperienced wielder of Lt's power.
The LT is greater than the IG (demostrated on panel)...Scathan is greater than the LT (and thus is greater than the IG)...
A lone CCU is theoretically equal to a complete IG...
So you see, you dont need "GODS" backing to be equal to or greater than the IG...
With those [b]FACTS
in mind, the IG is very finite, is definitely NOT "inexhaustable," and really is in the same boat as Dawn of Time Anti-Monitor...but lacks the raw horsepower that the AM possessed. [/B]
Having greater power and being inexhaustible are two different things. LOL. Thanos and the ig is inexhaustible whereas the Am needed to leech powers off of the heroes. Thanos with the ig thinks him out of existence, alters his mind, alters reality, etc.
Originally posted by leonidasThere are greater levels of infinity on marvel. On panel it's power is infinite. Real world logic takes a backseat to comic books. Always has and always will.
of course the power behind the ig is finite. an utterly assinine statement, and an outright lie, to suggest anything otherwise. but keep lying--personally i'm rooting for all thanos threads to be closed again. less trolls if they close. 👆
Originally posted by quanchi112
There are greater levels of infinity on marvel. On panel it's power is infinite. Real world logic takes a backseat to comic books. Always has and always will.
Originally posted by leonidas
of course the power behind the ig is finite. an utterly assinine statement, and an outright lie, to suggest anything otherwise. but keep lying--personally i'm rooting for all thanos threads to be closed again. less trolls if they close. 👆
Why is the statement assinine; its completely true...the IG is utterly finite.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThe Lt's function is to maintain balance. The Lt recognized Eternity as the supreme being of that reality until Thanos usurped him. All on panel. Scathan beat an inexperienced child with Lt like power.
The IG makes you the supreme being of nothing; the LT or Scathan could come whereever the IG is and overrule it...a lone CCU weilder could potentially neutralize anything a IG user could dish out.The IG makes you master of nothing as a result...
Dawn of Time Anti-Monitor wins...
Ig>>>cc in direct comparison on panel.
How does the Am win ?
Originally posted by Omega VisionI am citing canon events to support my argument. If you honestly think writers have to adhere to real world physics you need some time to think that over.
My comic books > your comic books. Try to dispute me. Just remember, real world logic doesn't apply. Also you can't use the letters 'i', 'e', 'f', 'g', 'k', or c-with-a-cedilla in your response.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo no, the IG is not all-powerful,
gives mastery over nothing,
and the "Infinity" Being that died to start up the Big Bang didnt
actually give rise to all of creation as there are powers equal to or greater than it is...
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderThe LT is greater than the IG (demostrated on panel)...
Scathan is greater than the LT (and thus is greater than the IG)...
A lone CCU is theoretically equal to a complete IG...
Scathan doesn't exist until about 1000 years from now.
A lone CCU .. nothing! ... You can't use Mephisto's theory as a feat.
Otherwise, we can say ... the Goddess had 30 CCUs, and yet it
was stated not in theoretical dialogue but with certainty, that the 30 CCUs combined were < IG.
So much for the theory you persist on repeating.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurderSo you see, you dont need "GODS" backing to be equal to
or greater than the IG...
But why?
Originally posted by Mr MasterThe 616 IG makes you Master/Supreme/God over all Concepts, over all reality.
The LT was above the IG cause he came as a direct representative of TOAA's power.
"I represent forces that dwarf even your might ... My authority comes from on high"
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Warlock made it clear that it was TOAA that was above the 616 IG:
"I was called to judgement by the LT, the servant of the one who is above even Gods"
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When the "Forces" you're bringing to the battle are TOAA's,
there's no arguing all are beneath you.The amazing thing is, that even still,
the LT had to determine if he had the power to forcibly take the IG from Warlock,
and he did have the power, but he had to make sure first,
even though the LT knew he was backed by TOAA.Love the writing there ... it made a point.
Simply incredible.
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