JLA Big 4 vs Thanos

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Originally posted by h1a8
punching Marvell wasn't canon although it wasn't that great of a feat anyway (not beyond high herald level).

Thanos can't win any here. This is spite. Superman alone would beat the phuck out of Thanos.

So Avengers annuals 7

I read that before. Been a long time.
It was strange how that happened, didn't quite look like a simple blast. Looked like a spell or something. Or that Thanos scared the shit out of him lol.
Also Thanos was amping off that big ass gem earlier.

Funny how it didn't seem like he could do that to Thor.

I wouldn't take too much into that feat, if anything at all.


The fruk are u talking about. U didn't read shiet. He wasn't amping off the synthetic gem. He placed it on some kind of projector. His plan was to use the gem as a source of power to blow up suns which would kill off different star systems. It's either u misremembered or just lying ure @$$ off. U fonny man..

Thanos would still lose.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Morg wasn't koed and that was a cheapshot, drax was stalemating him in strength and was only knocked out by the planet blowing up, mar-vell instant is non-canon and he actually flew from saturn to earth.
You're a complete moron. The scans were shown on Hero.. and it showed that he was struck there.. NOT flying. You can't argue if it's canon or not.. but don't make up stuff about him flying there. Morg WAS put down by the ONE blast from Thanos. Whether or not Drax was KO'd by the planet blowing up is of no consequence. Thanos was unfazed by a planet blowing up in his face. Just like how Odin one shot Surfer and Drax with ease... Showing just how far above heralds THanos is.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He's taken on multiple heralds? The last and only time he went against some, they beat the phuck out of him.

Go ahead and let me know when SUperman can one shot kill a high herald with an artifact... or when he's not KO'd by a gas station or when the whole JLA isn't put down by lighting. He's two shot Thor and one shot the Thing at the same time. Taken on Hulk and Drax at the same time... These guys are never a match for Thanos. Shit.. Thor.. Drax and Hulk with a host of other couldn't break Quasar's construct.. Thanos one shot it. That is how far he is above them in power output.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're a complete moron. The scans were shown on Hero.. and it showed that he was struck there.. NOT flying. You can't argue if it's canon or not.. but don't make up stuff about him flying there. Morg WAS put down by the ONE blast from Thanos. Whether or not Drax was KO'd by the planet blowing up is of no consequence. Thanos was unfazed by a planet blowing up in his face. Just like how Odin one shot Surfer and Drax with ease... Showing just how far above heralds THanos is.

But wasn't it a cheapshot?
Also Drax being koed by an exploding planet shows shitty durability at that moment. Most high heralds have tanked better than that.

Odin one shotting Surfer is a low showing for Surfer and not a norm thing.

No Skyfather is going to one shot a high end Surfer. Just look at his feats.

But you still didn't answer the question of how Thanos will get past Superman.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
The fruk are u talking about. U didn't read shiet. He wasn't amping off the synthetic gem. He placed it on some kind of projector. His plan was to use the gem as a source of power to blow up suns which would kill off different star systems. It's either u misremembered or just lying ure @$$ off. U fonny man..

I thought I saw him draining some energy from it unto his body or the narration saying he was amping off it. Didn't he absorb some of Warlock's gem (and other gems) to make the gem though? I could be mistaken though.

Either way, the feat is skittish. Looked like he put a death curse on Warlock vs. blasting him. I wouldn't put too much stock into that feat.

Originally posted by h1a8

I thought I saw him draining some energy from it unto his body or the narration saying he was amping off it. Didn't he absorb some of Warlock's gem (and other gems) to make the gem though? I could be mistaken though.

Either way, the feat is skittish. Looked like he put a death curse on Warlock vs. blasting him. I wouldn't put too much stock into that feat.

no indication of it other than a blast. If it was a "curse" like u said, that would be a first..
In the end he one-shot killed a powerful version of Adam Warlock w/soul gem. That's the only thing that matters.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
no indication of it other than a blast. If it was a "curse" like u said, that would be a first..
In the end he one-shot killed a powerful version of Adam Warlock w/soul gem. That's the only thing that matters.

But we see Thanos hands and face. There is no blast coming from them. It looks like some power is coming from Thanos chest (which is a first also). He see a skull in the background to hint at a curse or spell. Looks like Thanos scares him to death LOL. Maybe the writer didn't want to go into details of how Thanos killed Warlock.

But it matters if Thanos was amped off the soul gem (and other gems) prior to doing that. And it matters how Thanos did it because it might not be applicable now.
That's like Superman using T-Vo nowadays in every forum fight.
Do you see my point?

Originally posted by h1a8
But wasn't it a cheapshot?
Also Drax being koed by an exploding planet shows shitty durability at that moment. Most high heralds have tanked better than that.

Odin one shotting Surfer is a low showing for Surfer and not a norm thing.

No Skyfather is going to one shot a high end Surfer. Just look at his feats.

But you still didn't answer the question of how Thanos will get past Superman.

I thought I saw him draining some energy from it unto his body or the narration saying he was amping off it. Didn't he absorb some of Warlock's gem (and other gems) to make the gem though? I could be mistaken though.

Either way, the feat is skittish. Looked like he put a death curse on Warlock vs. blasting him. I wouldn't put too much stock into that feat.

You make ZERO sense sometimes. It's actually QUITE the norm for Skyfathers to one shot heralds. Shit DS has one shot Superman with ease before. He's treated him like a weak feeb on a few occasions. Odin, Shazam, Mordru, Tyrant etc etc have all treated Heralds like weak feebs before and one shot heralds. That is a COMMON thing.. not the opposite like you're trying to suggest.

A cheapshot... Morg CHEAPSHOTTED HIM FIRST and attacked Thanos first when he wasn't looking. I'd say fair play is fair play. Point is, he was put down with ease.

Why on God's Green Earth you think Superman would be an issue, let alone solo, is really beyond me. Superman would last a few panels to a pissed off going all out Thanos. Maybe a few more for a normal Thaons.. but Supemran has Zero chance of beating Thanos in a forum fight. Thanos is too powerful and too versatile to get beat by superman. Make no mistake.. Superman needs this team to help him or he's put down in a few shots or mind raped with ease.

Thanos would work Superman and Wonder Woman, while MM and GL are encase in pure force block. It take more than strength to put down Thanos, it takes sky father level to even rock Thanos, lets be real Odin was jacking Thanos up even though Odin wasn't really out for blood, it should that Thanos can take great punishment and keep on coming. Thanos omni blast can do some serious damage, Thanos isn't stupid he will divide and conquer, Thanos will take out the big guns out first.

MM wouldn't last long against Thanos or Wonder Woman, Superman will last the longest beside GL, I can really see Thanos kicking their butt up and down the battle field.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You make ZERO sense sometimes. It's actually QUITE the norm for Skyfathers to one shot heralds. Shit DS has one shot Superman with ease before. He's treated him like a weak feeb on a few occasions. Odin, Shazam, Mordru, Tyrant etc etc have all treated Heralds like weak feebs before and one shot heralds. That is a COMMON thing.. not the opposite like you're trying to suggest.

A cheapshot... Morg CHEAPSHOTTED HIM FIRST and attacked Thanos first when he wasn't looking. I'd say fair play is fair play. Point is, he was put down with ease.

Why on God's Green Earth you think Superman would be an issue, let alone solo, is really beyond me. Superman would last a few panels to a pissed off going all out Thanos. Maybe a few more for a normal Thaons.. but Supemran has Zero chance of beating Thanos in a forum fight. Thanos is too powerful and too versatile to get beat by superman. Make no mistake.. Superman needs this team to help him or he's put down in a few shots or mind raped with ease.

Everyone has one shot everyone else in their tier or less. Heralds have one shot heralds, skyfathers have one shot heralds, etc.
It's not a norm for a Skyfather to one shot a HIGH herald (not normal herald).
High heralds have too many high end feats that are skyfather level or above to say otherwise.

We all know that cheapshots in comics can reduce a character's durability by more than half. Just look at all the evidence (comic evidence and real life evidence).

Thanos would have a hard time with Superman because of his speed. If Superman wanted he can treat Thanos like a ping pong ball and play with him endlessly. Now if speed was equalized then yes Thanos would beat Superman, no question about it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Everyone has one shot everyone else in their tier or less. Heralds have one shot heralds, skyfathers have one shot heralds, etc.
It's not a norm for a Skyfather to one shot a HIGH herald (not normal herald).
High heralds have too many high end feats that are skyfather level or above to say otherwise.

We all know that cheapshots in comics can reduce a character's durability by more than half. Just look at all the evidence (comic evidence and real life evidence).

Thanos would have a hard time with Superman because of his speed. If Superman wanted he can treat Thanos like a ping pong ball and play with him endlessly. Now if speed was equalized then yes Thanos would beat Superman, no question about it.

This is the problem... you view high end feats in a skewed manner and given them more credit than you should. You view low showings as PIS and high showings as the norm. That is your main issue with view feats. High end feats don't count for more than low end feats. That isn't how the forum works. We could very well all high end feats are PIS and the low ones PIS.. only average ones count. In that scenerio... Superman would get one shot by Thanos. They would get treated like weak feebs by skyfathers. What on God's green earth are you basing this Skyfathers don't one shot heralds from? They DO SO ALL THE TIME IN COMICS.. that isn't a low showing for a herald THAT IS THE NORM. You need to accept this premise and conclusion first, so you can have a true outlook on fights such as these.

You say it happens all the time.. please show scans or reference incidents where Superman, MM or WW has one shot KILLED a high herald with a powerful artifact? You can't, because they aren't at that power level. Thanos IS at that level. He did so with Warlock and that was the WEAKEST thanos form to date.. He's only gotten more powerful.. so that is perfectly within his range to one shot heralds. Tyrant was treating heralds like feebs... He met Thanos and goes.. I can tell you're stronger than the rest.. and they go back and forth for a period of time. Much better than even a team did against Tyrant. That is whzt you're not seeing hearing. Thanos IS that far above a high herald. This team doesn't ahve what it takes to put him down.

Speed means nothing in a superman vs. Thanos fight... Thanos would simply omni blast superman fora one shot victory.. force block supemran for a victory... punch superman till he was a stain on his fist for a victory.. raise his shields and proceed to let superman try and break them while laughing... Teleport all around if Superman does use his speed and it cause him any issues.. poof he's gone. Mind rape superman with ease.. There are so many ways for Thanos to beat superman.. while superman only has one.. He'll pray he can get a good enough jump start and punch thanos into submission. That is the only way.. Sorry that just won't get it done.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
This is the problem... you view high end feats in a skewed manner and given them more credit than you should. You view low showings as PIS and high showings as the norm. That is your main issue with view feats. High end feats don't count for more than low end feats. That isn't how the forum works. We could very well all high end feats are PIS and the low ones PIS.. only average ones count. In that scenerio... Superman would get one shot by Thanos. They would get treated like weak feebs by skyfathers. What on God's green earth are you basing this Skyfathers don't one shot heralds from? They DO SO ALL THE TIME IN COMICS.. that isn't a low showing for a herald THAT IS THE NORM. You need to accept this premise and conclusion first, so you can have a true outlook on fights such as these.

You say it happens all the time.. please show scans or reference incidents where Superman, MM or WW has one shot KILLED a high herald with a powerful artifact? You can't, because they aren't at that power level. Thanos IS at that level. He did so with Warlock and that was the WEAKEST thanos form to date.. He's only gotten more powerful.. so that is perfectly within his range to one shot heralds. Tyrant was treating heralds like feebs... He met Thanos and goes.. I can tell you're stronger than the rest.. and they go back and forth for a period of time. Much better than even a team did against Tyrant. That is whzt you're not seeing hearing. Thanos IS that far above a high herald. This team doesn't ahve what it takes to put him down.

Speed means nothing in a superman vs. Thanos fight... Thanos would simply omni blast superman fora one shot victory.. force block supemran for a victory... punch superman till he was a stain on his fist for a victory.. raise his shields and proceed to let superman try and break them while laughing... Teleport all around if Superman does use his speed and it cause him any issues.. poof he's gone. Mind rape superman with ease.. There are so many ways for Thanos to beat superman.. while superman only has one.. He'll pray he can get a good enough jump start and punch thanos into submission. That is the only way.. Sorry that just won't get it done.

You are the one using Thanos high end feats here. You are claiming that he one shot Warlock as proof of a basis of his power level here. Thanos has engaged countless high heralds and never one shot killed any of them (even when he was more powerful).

And I'm going by the norm. Mangog doesn't one shot high heralds (look at his fights with Thor). Again the feat with Thanos vs. Warlock is suspect. We don't know what the hell happened there. We don't know if Thanos was amped from that synthetic gem (he was amping from) or whether Thanos used a spell curse (no blasts came from Thanos hands or face) to scare kill Warlock.

Superman, Thor , etc. have feats in skyfather level or beyond.
Thanos is not different. Thanos is evil and doesn't hold back while heroes like Superman holds back. This makes him seem more powerful. If Superman was evil can killed consistently then Superman would clearly be a trans too.

Gladiator was shown to go toe to toe with Tyrant until he was cheapshotted. Thanos was amped when he fought Tyrant. Yes he's slightly higher than a high herald but that doesn't mean he is far above a high herald. Nor does it mean a high herald can't beat him. Two average high heralds can beat Thanos or stalemate him. Three can stomp him.

Thanos has shown the multidirectional blasts (not omnidirectional) maybe once or twice. It wasn't shown with the power capable of significantly damaging a high herald level being. This type of blast is diluted since it is spread out and not concentrated in one single beam. Thus it's weaker than his normal blasts.

Also you act is if characters can't block, go intangible, beat Thanos to the punch, or shield themselves. Remember they are not just sitting there.

Superman can crumble Thanos shields after raining sufficient amount of blows.
Thanos doesn't like to teleport unless he has to (that's why he used his chair for that). No way he's just going to keep teleporting like DBZ. Also I say Superman can pop Thanos the moment he reappears.

If Superman wanted then Thanos couldn't touch him. If Superman wanted he can start viewing Thanos as a frozen statue in time.

Strength and speed is not enough to beat Thanos, you have to be highly powerful and highly versatile too even slow down Thanos.
Thanos can stop all speedsters in their tracks, like via Thor hammer in mid flight with TK, or the Fallen One the same way. Thanos will just out smart all of them and play them into his advantage.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are the one using Thanos high end feats here. You are claiming that he one shot Warlock as proof of a basis of his power level here. Thanos has engaged countless high heralds and never one shot killed any of them (even when he was more powerful).

And I'm going by the norm. Mangog doesn't one shot high heralds (look at his fights with Thor). Again the feat with Thanos vs. Warlock is suspect. We don't know what the hell happened there. We don't know if Thanos was amped from that synthetic gem (he was amping from) or whether Thanos used a spell curse (no blasts came from Thanos hands or face) to scare kill Warlock.

Superman, Thor , etc. have feats in skyfather level or beyond.
Thanos is not different. Thanos is evil and doesn't hold back while heroes like Superman holds back. This makes him seem more powerful. If Superman was evil can killed consistently then Superman would clearly be a trans too.

Gladiator was shown to go toe to toe with Tyrant until he was cheapshotted. Thanos was amped when he fought Tyrant. Yes he's slightly higher than a high herald but that doesn't mean he is far above a high herald. Nor does it mean a high herald can't beat him. Two average high heralds can beat Thanos or stalemate him. Three can stomp him.

Thanos has shown the multidirectional blasts (not omnidirectional) maybe once or twice. It wasn't shown with the power capable of significantly damaging a high herald level being. This type of blast is diluted since it is spread out and not concentrated in one single beam. Thus it's weaker than his normal blasts.

Also you act is if characters can't block, go intangible, beat Thanos to the punch, or shield themselves. Remember they are not just sitting there.

Superman can crumble Thanos shields after raining sufficient amount of blows.
Thanos doesn't like to teleport unless he has to (that's why he used his chair for that). No way he's just going to keep teleporting like DBZ. Also I say Superman can pop Thanos the moment he reappears.

If Superman wanted then Thanos couldn't touch him. If Superman wanted he can start viewing Thanos as a frozen statue in time.

WTF are you talking about here... Point is, YOU DON'T just get to view high end feats as their average and discount low feats.. not how it works. If we go by average feats.. Where are you getting this notion that Mangog doesn't one shot Thor? He does EXACTLY that to Thor... especially SA Mangog.. He's treated Thor like a weak feeb more time than I can count. Thor is no threat to Mangog.. Just like Thor or superman isn't a threat to Thanos. Understand now? Superman has been treated like a weak feeb by so many poeple I've lost count.. Titus, Konvict, DS, Doomsday, Grundy, Despero.. The list goes on and on. Now name me any herald that has treated Thanos like a weak feeb? You can't. That shows the gulf in power here.

Next, you're forgetting that Villians are SUPPOSE to lose.... that is how the story goes. That is a bigger reason for villians losing to superman than superman holding back because he is a hero. If I threw out all of superman wins in the end.. his fetas would look like shit. Yet, that is what you're trying to do here. You're also forgetting that Superman often time losses the first fight to a bad guy and then comes back to win the next time they meet. That is still only a 1 n 1 record against said bad guy. His one victory doesn't make up for him getting curbed with utter ease the first time they met. Thanos also doesn't have these losses like that. Are you starting to realize how flawed it is to view feats such as you do? You only count superman wins.. but forget he had losses in that very comic and only one because he's suppose to.

I'm not just using high feats.. nor is the warlock feat questionable.. it's anythign but questionable. That isn't a high feat for Thanos since he's done that before. Plus, it was his weakest form which in fact is a low showing for present day Thanos. He's one shot killed Warlock, Drax and Phyla just to name some. He's one shot Morg.. punched surfer to death... 2 shot Thor.. one shot thing.. the list goes on and on. Superman doesn't have such feats.. he needs to lay his hands on somebody for a bit to take them out. Thanos one shots heralds. Huge gulf in power difference.

I referenced Thanos breaking Quasar's construct with EASE in one shot. Thor.. Hulk.. Drax and a host of other heroes coudn't do shit to it. That shows the gulf in power here. Thanos pretty much matched the in betweener blast output to free him. Keep in mind the level of the I.B. way way beyond these chumps.. shit he'd take a dump on a skyfather.

Odin ONE SHOT HERDALDS with ease.. Odin coulnd't put THanos down with blast after blast. See a pattern here? Tyrant toyed with heralds.. He coulnd't put thanos down with his blasts. Where the F are you getting this Glads did ANYTHING to Tyrant? You call him MOMENTARILY matching his blast as doing something to Tyrant? That is reaching even for you.. He the proceeded to get his blast easily overpowered and one shot with ease..

You need to accept that Thanos is far beyond Superman.. it's a none fight... Superman has zero chance to win in a forum fight. Why? because thanos is in a different league.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanos would work Superman and Wonder Woman, while MM and GL are encase in pure force block. It take more than strength to put down Thanos, it takes sky father level to even rock Thanos, lets be real Odin was jacking Thanos up even though Odin wasn't really out for blood, it should that Thanos can take great punishment and keep on coming. Thanos omni blast can do some serious damage, Thanos isn't stupid he will divide and conquer, Thanos will take out the big guns out first.

MM wouldn't last long against Thanos or Wonder Woman, Superman will last the longest beside GL, I can really see Thanos kicking their butt up and down the battle field.

You're drastically underrating the opposition. The ring is the most dangerous weapon and its in the power of the greatest GL. Thanos isn't dropping Superman and Wonder Woman in a few panels.

Why not?

If thanos force blocks Hal and Kal and then goes h2h with Diana its really not outrageous to suggest him one shotting wondy and dropping the martian in a few panels

I dont think that Thanos is going to one shot anyone. The premise is absurd. If anyone could one shot Superman or Diana why didnt Asmodius do it or someone of that powerlevel? Why didnt Ivictus do it to the green lantern? Because they just dont go down that easily.

The they get downed by thanos in a few panals crap is not so.

So are you saying max potential Ig weilding thanos can't drop cap in one panel, because he didn't
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