Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Count Dooku has a MAJOR WEAKNESS to Kinetic Energy.That's why Opress floored and disarmed him in 1 stroke. Now Sidious has got into a blade lock with Maul and Opress combined. So Clearly that means all it will take it a Semi-Stroke from Sidious (if that) and Dooku will be defeated.
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Originally posted by Marco1907
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Originally posted by Marco1907
@DPThanks, that reply really makes sense tbh, Savage has been always the same, he hasn't grown strong or didn't learn anything in a one week.
So wait Savage wasn't strong yet in their training session?
No actually what makes complete sense is that clearly 1 week training is all he needed to go from being utterly embarassed by Dooku to apparently being capable of 1 shotting him any time he likes.
And FYI Filoni already confirmed that Opress hardly had any training, and that all his power has pretty much come from the Nightsister amp.
Oh and let's also IGNORE the fact that it was 2 v 1 when Savage floored Dooku, which was also the case in the Rots novel when meeting HEAD to HEAD was an issue- While Fending Off a Second Attacker.
Dooku says that he has completed the first stages of his training here; this happens after that training in the video.
Originally posted by Marco1907
Dooku says that he has completed the first stages of his training here; this happens after that training in the video.
Yeah in the same damn episode. Exactly what kind of improvement do you think he had in that 1 episode?
Going from being utterly embarrassed by Dooku, to (according to you) able to 1 shot him any time? At that rate he should have been stomping Maul too after all that time he had more training under Maul. Heck at the rate you're claiming he should have taken Sidious by "The Lawless."
The first stages of his training just means his first lessons in Sabers and Tk, which we saw at then end of he was still absolutely no match for Dooku in either. And Director's commentary > Dooku's words to his apprentice in any case. And the director confirmed Opress hardly had any training, and his power mostly just comes from his Nightsister Amp.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Yeah in the same damn episode. Exactly what kind of improvement do you think he had in that 1 episode?
What I am saying that the video you've shown was before Savage Opress's lightsaber training, it was his first experience on lightsaber duel, what would expect ? Ragdolling Dooku in his first experience ?
Savage did that feat after completed the first stages of his training, that's why we can't compare those examples, because clearly Savage was inferior in the video you've shown.
Originally posted by Marco1907
What I am saying that the video you've shown was before Savage Opress's lightsaber training, it was his first experience on lightsaber duel, what would expect ? Ragdolling Dooku in his first experience ?Savage did that feat after completed the first stages of his training, that's why we can't compare those examples, because clearly Savage was inferior in the video you've shown.
He was already from a Warrior tribe, so already had training in handling a weapon.
Now what I'm saying is that a few days of training is not enough to go from being humiliated like that to suddenly being a proper challenge in a 1 v 1 Saber fight, let alone being capable of 1 shotting Dooku any/every time he hits his blade.
Also at 2:34 here:
Skywalker bashes on Dooku's blade 3 times when he's on the floor, yet can not disarm him, and Dooku holds the blade lock 1 Handed no-less. That's why Skywalker resorts to grabbing Dooku's neck. So there clearly isn't any kind of Major Weakness to the Kinetic energy of Skywalker's blade there.
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Ataro has a powerful offensive, so of course the Most Powerful Jedi wielding it will have plenty of Kinetic power.Doesn't matter. We're talking about Kinetic power, which Grievous clearly has in spades. Although I'm sure Grievous does actually employ the primary 6 forms in his technique.
Kenobi's modest amount of kinetic power only adds to Skywalker's when they are attacking Dooku together.
That's because Anakin's a powerhouse.
He floored him in TCW once via a kick. Dooku's kicks on Ventress and Skywalker have always been far more lethal.
The ROTS Novel makes it clear the reason Skywalker defeated Dooku is because he was simply too powerful for him. It had nothing to do with Djem So, which Dooku handled just fine once he had Anakin one on one and taunted him into feeling fear so he couldn't use his entire wealth of power. I would give the exact quotes if I had the novel on me.
That's your own theory. He's sparred Vapaad Windu in the past and bested him. Dark Rendezvous also suggests Dooku and Windu are rivals in a Saber fight.
Dooku handled Savage's Kintetic Power with Ease in their 1 v 1.
And yet Dooku's casually out fenced Sora Bulq who was using Vapaad, and it's in fact Djem So that has the Weakness to Dooku's Mobility. That's in fact the ONLY Weakness mentioned in the ROTS Novel.
You can't just make up your own theories like that of this supposed "MAJOR Weakness" Dooku has, when the only time it was mentioned in canon, it was very context specific (fighting off 2 opponents), and the word "Weakness" was never even used, just because you don't like the idea of Skywalker being too Powerful for Count Dooku.
We've gone over this before big buddy... You have no proof Mace new Vaapad at that point... Even if he did... why or how would you use vaapad in sparring and against a lightsider? you wouldn't and it would've be as effective. Lastly, Dooku was clearly younger and in his prime more and Mace had not yet come into his own. That is a very distinct and real possibility as well. Regardless, sparring is very different than a life and death fight.