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Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Your putting the CW Mini on the same level of canonicity as AOTC and ESB? Are you kidding me?Go to the offiicial SW Website and find me even one reference to the Cw Mini. It has all been erased. HAHAHAHa (evil laugh).
No. No I'm not.
Only if you go to the official SW website and find me one reference to Jacen Solo. Has Jacen been erased if you can't?
Originally posted by Arhael
If there was pain at all? Are you serious? Drop yourself on your back and find out, if it is painful. Then consider how much faster they flew into that window. Not many Sith can ignore pain, even less Sith can draw on it. And concussion effect is not pain, it makes the world spin around you.
I'm not a superhuman alien wearing battlearmor. There is absolutely no indication that they were dazed at all. Get your head out of your ass.
Originally posted by Arhael
It would. Kill, slay, defeat completely and render useless are some of the synonyms of destroy. In any case, the destruction power, which is defined in game, makes bodies fly away and they are left intact. No point to continue arguing it.
Whatever. I don't even care about this point anymore. The fact is that people can disintegrate and vaporise opponents with their Force attacks no matter how much you ***** about it. Its canon. Deal with it.
Originally posted by Arhael
Blitzing 3 Jedi is not evidence, it is another fight, it is impossible to establish where Sidious moved faster, so pointless bringing up this feat.Other than that I saw points like he let them free at beginning, he let Maul mourn, he didn’t want to kill Maul and he was laughing. Do you really consider any of that “evidence”? To me it seems as grasping at straws.
In contrary he heavily utilized acrobatics – it is speed demonstration itself.
He utilized kicks – it implies that he used every skill available to get advantage during fight. Even when he fought Opress alone, lightsaber didn’t pass through his defense, kicks was what penetrated Opress’ defense and allowed him to strike him down. In other words he defeated Opress through demonstration of superior skill by exposing the same weakness in unarmed combat as Kenobi and Maul, not speed.
To kill Opress he Force blasted Maul. If as you say he could fight faster, why would he need to take Maul out of equation?
Sorry but theory of Sidious not using full speed is rather weak.
Why do you not consider that evidence? Its a clear indication that Sidious was going easy on them. Which is supported by the various statements Filoni has made about how Sidious 'never wavered from his position of superiority' and calling the fight an ass-kicking and the novels descriptions of Sidious managing to increase his speed halfway through the fight.
No, it isn't. 😬
No, it doesn't. 😬 How does it imply that? About 10 seconds before he kills him Sidious is playfully dancing around his lightsaber without his own even being activated. It's obvious that Savage's skills are far below Sidious and that he stands no chance 1-on-1. If he was utilising every skill he would have just dominated him with the Force, which he showed he can do.
So he could take his time with Opress without Maul interfering? To render Maul helpless and forced to watch as he kills his brother? Sidious is a sadistic guy, both are in-character.
Don't you think you're the one assuming that Sidious was fighting at his full speed? That is an assumption as well. The difference is that we actually have evidence that Sidious was not going all out on the brothers whereas all of yours and DP's evidence is nothing but 'he didn't outspeed him so therefore he couldn't of' and twisting statements to fail to support your argument.
Originally posted by Arhael
Concentration can decrease as well, after killing Opress there was a cooling off period. And no, it does not support your argument because text doesn’t mention speed during fight with both brothers. It mentions though that Sidious was using every sleep in their defense for counterattack. And again the fact that he needed to Force blast Maul and then concussion Opress with kicks in order to kill him goes in accord to your theory. Such effort would not be required, if he could simply blitz Opress, while fending off Maul.If he didn’t use full speed against Maul alone (which I don’t believe), it could be because fighting Maul alone requires less effort than both brothers combined.
None of this is mentioned in the text. If this was the case then his speed would have been increasing in the first half of the duel as well, yet that's not mentioned as you said. Also, Sidious didn't need to 'steadily deepen his concentration' in his fight with the Jedi. In fact, has someone getting faster as a result of deeper concentration ever actually happened, or have you just made this entire theory up without anything to support it?
Originally posted by Arhael
Doesn’t mean that he didn’t use anger. And relishing fight, also, boosts performance as Windu example suggests.
Yes it does. If he's enjoying himself he can't be angry at the same time. And thats with a specific technique. And Sidious gets less pleased in his fight with Maul, not more.
Originally posted by Arhael
Because there is no single example where boost of power would boost speed. Anakin with his far superior power and rage boost couldn’t blitz Kenobi. Luke with his rage boost battered Vader’s defenses through superior strength, not speed and in book Vader at that moment sees it as Force gives Luke equivalent of skill, nothing about speed. And of course the fact that Force users can’t blitz skilled non-sensitive combatants like Mandalorians and Yuuzhan Vong. And finally, Dooku scores a hit on Yoda not because of superior speed but simply because Yoda was distracted by saving Whirry with TK. But of course you gonna ignore all these evidence and just stick to your opinion no matter what.
'It had been many years since Farfalla had fought while empowered by Worror's battle meditation. He had forgotten how much quicker and stronger the Ithorian's amazing talent made him feel. The Force flowed through him with greater power, filling him with its might. Yet even with their enhanced abilities, he wondered if they would survive the coming battle.'
'Bane never stopped, his momentum carrying him straight toward Farfalla. The Jedi Master had a moment to register the strange armor coat of hard, shiny shells he wore beneath his clothes. Then he, too, leapt to the side to avoid being crushed, surviving only because his reflexes were heightened by Worror's power.'
And no, the text specifically says Dooku's speed was enhanced. Get over it.
Also what the **** was that about Mandalorians? Are you suggesting that Force speed.... doesn't even exist? Are you high? They ****ing well can blitz those people, its just that those caliber of combatants also have incredibly fast reflexes and speed.
Originally posted by Arhael
They are. In AotC Yoda clearly struggles to stop that pillar flailing his hands with straining face and when he lets it go, he breathes out. And starfighter is around the same weight as that pillar, if not heavier. How do you know that he is greatly enfeebled? Throughout prequel he doesn’t do much anyway to keep himself in shape. 20 years is nothing comparing to 900 years he’s already lived.And even, if he is enfeebled, it does not decrease TK potency. Luke out of practice still moved black hole, his smaller reserves was the only problem, not TK strength.
Thats subjective. He could just have trouble concentrating after his duel, he could have breathed out of relief. And it was after Yoda had engaged in a duel with Dooku, so he was likely worn out, particularly since his Ataru tires the user out quickly. And after those 20 years he is only 2 years away from dying of old age. I don't think I need to say anything else.
Yoda's words in the Jedi Path indicate otherwise. When discussing an exercise in lifting large rocks Yoda says 'Only 5 can I lift, since I've turned 700.'