Originally posted by Robtard
That's quit a stretch. He threw his life away in the odd change he might have taken out one of the dragon's eyes. To suggest this was his plan, is pretty silly.
I agree his plan was not the best but that doesn't mean it wasn't his plan. If he just wanted to die there was no reason to bring the axe and hold it like he wanted to do something with it. And had he succeeded in injuring the eye of the beast, even at the cost of his own life, it would have greatly helped the other two complete the mission.
Originally posted by Robtard
Come on, dude. Going on the "Van Zan was trying to take out an eye" notion is just silly. It was a rage-quit, the guy wasn't in a rational state of mind and threw his life away.
Not at all. I remember watching the scene in the theater and thinking exactly that. He felt he couldn't win, he felt he couldn't escape, so he decided to attack in the only way he could. He failed yes but i don't think his intent was to just give up
Originally posted by juggerman
Not at all. I remember watching the scene in the theater and thinking exactly that. He felt he couldn't win, he felt he couldn't escape, so he decided to attack in the only way he could. He failed yes but i don't think his intent was to just give up
Even if the attack landed, it had almost zero chance of doing any real damage...the scene was basically him wanting to die on his terms.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Even if the attack landed, it had almost zero chance of doing any real damage...the scene was basically him wanting to die on his terms.
I agree with the chance being slim but it was still a chance. And i agree he wanted to die on his own terms but that would not be the case here.
Originally posted by RobtardSo with all the information avaliable Quinn changed his mind. This later saved the entire planet. Zan giving his life for a greater cause is the stuff to be celebrated not scoffed at. You really hate courage and those who demonstrate it. You'd rather the human race go extinct just to cause the dragons to nap.
Because the male had the castle's location due to Van Zan's silly antics and killed half of Quinn's people. Did you not pay attention?There was no way him jumping with an axe would have killed the male dragon. He did give up, he performed a classic rage-quit.
He chose the best option at the time in an act of defiance against the dragon. To think he just wanted to die and pussy his way out is both dishonest and ridiculous.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So with all the information avaliable Quinn changed his mind. This later saved the entire planet. Zan giving his life for a greater cause is the stuff to be celebrated not scoffed at. You really hate courage and those who demonstrate it. You'd rather the human race go extinct just to cause the dragons to nap.He chose the best option at the time in an act of defiance against the dragon. To think he just wanted to die and pussy his way out is both dishonest and ridiculous.
No, with having little choice Quinn changed his mind. They obviously couldn't hide in the castle anymore, once the male knew the location due to Van Zan's stupid decisions. Watch the film.
Best action would have been taking the stairs and possibly living to continue the fight/help Quinn. But no, Vna Zan likes his silly antics that get people needlessly killed, including himself.
What would you call a guy who goes against a sensible leader(Quinn) and his actions end up betraying the location of the home-base to the enemy which leads to the death of many? That's called a traitor. Van Zan's a traitor to humanity.
Originally posted by RobtardYes, and the part you keep ignoring is that they stopped the dragons. You keep saying wait and see Quinn was onto something. The only time it worked was when the dinosaurs were wiped off the map. You make the silliest arguments I Have ever heard.
No, with having little choice Quinn changed his mind. They obviously couldn't hide in the castle anymore, once the male knew the location due to Van Zan's stupid decisions. Watch the film.Best action would have been taking the stairs and possibly living to continue the fight/help Quinn. But no, Vna Zan likes his silly antics that get people needlessly killed, including himself.
What would you call a guy who goes against a sensible leader(Quinn) and his actions end up betraying the location of the home-base to the enemy which leads to the death of many? That's called a traitor. Van Zan's a traitor to humanity.
No, Zan led to the downfall of the dragons. Sissies like you would rather be under your bed and to ignore the problems that plague you. Not Zan. Not ever. It is rare to see someone champion cowardice like you recently have. I bet you love Starscream.
Humans digging deep/hiding and waiting out the dragons was Quinn's idea. Which would have worked, since a food source the dragon's can't reach isn't really a food source, now is it. Think; then speak. Watch the film again.
Van Zan lead to the needless deaths of people and the burning of their sanctuary. He's really just a traitor to humanity, deal with it already. Accept that you champion a rage-quitting traitor.
Originally posted by RobtardDo you know how many total people were left on the planet at this point ? You are speculating but I know what did work. Point for myself and zan.
Humans digging deep/hiding and waiting out the dragons was Quinn's idea. Which would have worked, since a food source the dragon's can't reach isn't really a food source, now is it. Think; then speak. Watch the film again.Van Zan lead to the needless deaths of people and the burning of their sanctuary. He's really just a traitor to humanity, deal with it already. Accept that you champion a rage-quitting traitor.
Casualties are to be expected in a war. You can tell the crybaby Quinn wasn't as mentally tough as Zan. Zan led him and Quinn ended up carrying out the mission Zan laid before him. Zan saved humanity.
Originally posted by Lestov16
LOL You think Quinn's small group hiding would have made even a slight dent in the dragon's food supply? And what food supply would Quinn's group have to hide out with, when they were struggling for tomatoes? Van Zan's plan of killing the male was definitely the better plan
By the time Van Zan arrives in England, the dragon population was down and those that were left were starving due to lack of food.
Quinn had the safer better idea, hide, let them starve. They would have gone back to sleep for billions of years.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Do you know how many total people were left on the planet at this point ? You are speculating but I know what did work. Point for myself and zan.Casualties are to be expected in a war. You can tell the crybaby Quinn wasn't as mentally tough as Zan. Zan led him and Quinn ended up carrying out the mission Zan laid before him. Zan saved humanity.
Enough where by the end of the film when the dragons that were left had starved out we're lead to believe humanity would be able to rebuild. LoL, didn't pay attention again did you.
Casualties in battle are one thing, getting people killed and getting your home base destroyed cos you're too much of a arrogant macho fool to listen to logic is something entirely different. Van Zan's a traitor to his own race. He get's people killed and feeds dragons.
Originally posted by Robtard
By the time Van Zan arrives in England, the dragon population was down and those that were left were starving due to lack of food.Quinn had the safer better idea, hide, let them starve. They would have gone back to sleep for billions of years.
And the humans would have needed no food, water, or resources whatsoever to wait out the dragons with, right?
Originally posted by Lestov16
And the humans would have needed no food, water, or resources whatsoever to wait out the dragons with, right?
Quinn's people were obviously scraping by and had been for years, but I see no reason why hiding out for another 3 months or so would have been a problem for them.
Besides, aren't you one of the people who insisted Quinn and his people where well off in terms of nutrition in another thread? Don't backpedal now.
Originally posted by Robtard
Quinn's people were obviously scraping by and had been for years, but I see no reason why hiding out for another 3 months or so would have been a problem for them.Besides, aren't you one of the people who insisted Quinn and his people where well off in terms of nutrition in another thread? Don't backpedal now.
I didn't say they were well off. I said Quinn wasn't the weak Auchswitz-level starved chump you tried to downplay him as. And how do you know the dragon population would die down in 3 months? How do you know it wouldn't take 3 years, or 3 decades? No way in hell Quinn's group would survive that long.
Also, again, you act as if Quinn housed the entirety of the dragon's food supply, when he was only one group out of many survivors spread across the world. Even if Quinn went underground, the dragons would just find somebody else to eat. It's not like Quinn's camp contained every human survivor left on the planet.
I hope to God you never lead a group of surviviors in a situation like this, since your tactic is "Let everyone starve until the problem just blows over someday".
I'd say cutting off the dragon's ability to reproduce>>>>>>>>>>>>ineffective attempt at starving them that doesn't work because they'll eat other survivors, and only gets you killed by malnutrition instead. Van defintiely had the better plan, and you're a fool to think differently.
Originally posted by RobtardYou don't know the answer just as I thought. The point is this was a speculative theory at best and you assume otherwise mainly out of trollery.
Enough where by the end of the film when the dragons that were left had starved out we're lead to believe humanity would be able to rebuild. LoL, didn't pay attention again did you.Casualties in battle are one thing, getting people killed and getting your home base destroyed cos you're too much of a arrogant macho fool to listen to logic is something entirely different. Van Zan's a traitor to his own race. He get's people killed and feeds dragons.
Like I said Quinn followed him. Zan ended up being right since the male dragon was destroyed. Saving humanity means patriot not a traitor. Quit being a sponsor to cowardice you savage.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't know the answer just as I thought. The point is this was a speculative theory at best and you assume otherwise mainly out of trollery.Like I said Quinn followed him. Zan ended up being right since the male dragon was destroyed. Saving humanity means patriot not a traitor. Quit being a sponsor to cowardice you savage.
Watch the film. Quinn's group makes contact with another group in France and the film ends with an upbeat message.
Cos he had no real other choice, after Van Zan's stupid plan lead the male back to the castle. Quinn already knew about the male; he was the first to see it. Watch the damn film. Van Zan didn't save humanity, he got people killed and their sanctuary destroyed, he's a traitor to humanity, feeding the enemy. You swing from the nuts of a traitor and coward.