Originally posted by focus4chumpsIf someone gives their life so the other has a chance ? If someone does something in your eyes foolish in the heat of battle do they deserve to be called an idiot ?
depends on the circumstances. for example: did he die throwing a claymore at an enemy tank's treads or did he just dive under the tank treads?
one is a hero, the other an idiot.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I understand that but he was taking as many men with him as he could have to get this thing over with.They failed. The male dragon was a beast and a bit of luck was involved in Quinn taking it out anyways even in the best conditions for the humans. To me I look at this like taking half court shots. Most of them don't go in but luck is involved when they do. Killing the dragon was a half court shot. Initially failing against the alpha dragon is nothing to scoff at. Zan survived and simply came back. Trial and error.
Going in with those numbers wasn't foolish. They simply were defeated the first time. People died as a result of this but Quinn knew Zan's intentions were always for the betterment of mankind. That isn't in question and so they simply went in with their backs up against the wall. This is usually how the movies go down. At the end of the day the dragon was defeated and Zan gave his life for the cause. Admirable.
Red Herring, bro. We're talking about Van Zan going in at night, when he himself stated the dragons were most deadly. That was an idiotic move.
Zan's only contribution to the male's death was giving Quinn an explosive arrow and forcing Quinn to lead the way back into London since Van Zan got a shit load of people killed and the castle shacked.
You basically ignored all questions and points, poor debating form. But answering your point, I see nothing admirable about foolishly throwing your life away. If he had tried to live to continue the fight/help Quinn and Alex but died anyways, that would have been admirable.
Originally posted by RobtardZans presence and interaction as well as that. The guy was pivotal no matter how badly you want to dismiss him you can't.
Red Herring, bro. We're talking about Van Zan going in at night, when he himself stated the dragons were most deadly. That was an idiotic move.Zan's only contribution to the male's death was giving Quinn an explosive arrow and forcing Quinn to lead the way back into London since Van Zan got a shit load of people killed and the castle shacked.
You basically ignored all questions and points, poor debating form. But answering your point, I see nothing admirable about foolishly throwing your life away. If he had tried to live to continue the fight/help Quinn and Alex but died anyways, that would have been admirable.
No, I didn't. Giving your life in service to your country is not throwing it away. Show some respect.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Zans presence and interaction as well as that. The guy was pivotal no matter how badly you want to dismiss him you can't.No, I didn't. Giving your life in service to your country is not throwing it away. Show some respect.
Still fishing for those red herrings, eh. Anyhow, no amount of your dancing will take away that Van Zan went against his own intel and attacked the male when it was at its most lethal. That's just plain stupid and shows lack of leadership.
You did and continue to ignore facts that crush you, cos you can't face that the subject of your fantasy was poorly written. Going against own good tactical advice. Committing a rage quit. Just poor writing.
Originally posted by RobtardDragon was killed. Tis was the alpha dragon. No, he went out as a hero. Zan knew how to slay dragons and was their leader.
Still fishing for those red herrings, eh. Anyhow, no amount of your dancing will take away that Van Zan went against his own intel and attacked the male when it was at its most lethal. That's just plain stupid and shows lack of leadership.You did and continue to ignore facts that crush you, cos you can't face that the subject of your fantasy was poorly written. Going against own good tactical advice. Committing a rage quit. Just poor writing.