Denton Van Zan Vs. the Wood-chipper from Fargo

Originally posted by juggerman
Then why jump with the axe cocked back? Why jump with it at all?

EXACTLY!!!

Originally posted by juggerman
In the moment such a thought may not have occured to him. Or he may have thought such a move was futile. Not saying he had no other choice but he could have believed that to be the case

Well, possibly....he wasn't very smart.

But the end was the same result.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
EXACTLY!!!

Cuz he was intended to do damage.

Originally posted by juggerman
Cuz he was intended to do damage.

no, he never swung the axe.

Originally posted by juggerman
Cuz he was intended to do damage.

This would be similar to you charging an adult male polar bear armed with only some nail clippers and "intending" to harm it.

It was suicide, dude.

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Well, possibly....he wasn't very smart.

But the end was the same result.

I won't debate for his intelligence, since everyone here pretty much proved he has very little, but he was clearly not suicidal the entire movie. He only jumped cuz there weren't many/any other options left

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no, he never swung the axe.

Misjudged distance maybe

Originally posted by Robtard
This would be similar to you charging an adult male polar bear armed with only some nail clippers and "intending" to harm it.

It was suicide, dude.

doesnt matter. check the slow-mo. he never even began to swing it.

Originally posted by Robtard
This would be similar to you charging an adult male polar bear armed with only some nail clippers and "intending" to harm it.

It was suicide, dude.

If i was back up toward a cliff and it was all i had then i'd charge. At least there's a small chance of wounding the bear

Originally posted by juggerman
He only jumped cuz there weren't many/any other options left

Like ever other suicide jumper in history?

Originally posted by focus4chumps
doesnt matter. check the slow-mo. he never even began to swing it.

I saw and you're right he didn't. But again it doesn't mean he didn't intend to swing. The dragon could have been going faster than he thought

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Like ever other suicide jumper in history?

Nice. Tho different circumstances. Jumpers not facing certain or near enough to certain death don't apply

even IF he had judged the distance correctly, he was in midair, which means if the axe had hit, it would have just sent him spinning while the dragon wouldnt even have felt it. it was a completely stupid attack.

He could have just jumped the other side.
He would have died by his own hand, AND not helping the enemy feeding the starving-out dragon.

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Originally posted by juggerman
If i was back up toward a cliff and it was all i had then i'd charge. At least there's a small chance of wounding the bear

Except that "cliff" isn't a cliff, it is a ladder and you'd have a chance of escaping/living to help your mates fight.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
even IF he had judged the distance correctly, he was in midair, which means if the axe had hit, it would have just sent him spinning while the dragon wouldnt even have felt it. it was a completely stupid attack.

Unless he hit the eye. Or the gums or something. Again i'm not saying it was well thought out or anything just that it wasn't him just trying to end his life

Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
He could have just jumped the other side.
He would have died by his own hand, AND not helping the enemy feeding the starving-out dragon.

Which farther proves it wasn't just suicide

Originally posted by Robtard
Except that "cliff" isn't a cliff, it is a ladder and you'd have a chance of escaping/living to help your mates fight.

The ladder was not a sure thing. The dragon has shown that he can pretty much stop mid flight and completely cover a large area in flames. Zan most likely would have died on the ladder

well it kinda was since he had an escape route.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
well it kinda was since he had an escape route.

I edited and addressed

I posted screen caps and time frames earlier in the thread, the ladder/escape route was right next to him and he had the time, except choose to stare like a dunce while the dragon turned back around and recovered.

He had 6-7 to get down and out of sight before the dragon recovered/returned.

Even if he ignored the ladder and jumped off the tower in the other direction, his chances of surviving the fall while slim, would have been higher than jumping into a dragon's mouth which is effectively zero. A zero percent chance of survival.

To your edit: It's still a slim chance to zero chance.

Originally posted by Robtard
I posted screen caps and time frames earlier in the thread, the ladder/escape route was right next to him and he had the time, except choose to stare like a dunce while the dragon turned back around and recovered.

Even if he ignored the ladder and jumped off the tower in the other direction, his chances of surviving the fall while slim, would have been higher than jumping into a dragon's mouth which is effectively zero. A zero percent chance of survival.

To your edit: It's still a slim chance to zero chance.

He did have the time but he had just been knocked down by an explosion iirc. It may have taken him a bit to regain his thoughts. Add into that the fact that he just lost his only useful weapon, he was almost certainly at death's door, and he failed once again and you can understand that he may not have gone over every possible outcome and viable avenue available in the seconds he had.