Odin (in Destroyer) vs. Tyrant

Started by leonidas19 pages
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How is this thread still going on besides Leo trying to hold onto the idea of Odin winning. Most think he losses... and that thinking would be spot on. Tyrant was portrayed as someone above Odin, and that is exactly what he is.. Above Odin.

well, with that sort of reasoning, i'm now convinced. 👆

(incidentally, it's not just me, but, carry on.)

😂

Originally posted by leonidas
well, with that sort of reasoning, i'm now convinced. 👆

You mean I did all that typing for nothing? 😠
I need to shorten my posts and be more direct. 😎

Not just you, but mostly you Big Leo. Which is fine, I don't mind going against the grain sometimes myself 😉 Point is though, that Tyrant looked superior in a direct comparision to their common foes.. Thanos and Big G and that is significant. These facts can't be gotten around....

1. Thanos went looking for a fight and to test his might against a worth foe. He prepped he amped for Tyrant and still lost and admitted he would be killed if he stayed. Now compare that to
1A. He wasn't looking for a fight with Odin.. he didn't prep or amp for Odin, in fact, he was seeking Odin's help. Yet, in a much longer fight STILL never admitted Odin was his superior nor backdown like he did with Tyrant.

2. Galactus backed down from Tyrant the first time he met Tyrant. The next time he prepped and fed like he hadn't in eons JUST to fight Tyrant. A Tyrant who was made in Galactus image to be his equal and parnter in the universe. Said Tyrant in his DP state had accumulated most, if not all of his power back and decided to challenge Galactus once more. During said fight... Tyrant got the better of Galactus at virutally every turn..
2A. Galactus never backed down from odin, in fact, he was even surprised Odin would even think of challenging him. He didn't feed to the extent he did for Tyrant nor was there any mention of Prep. At no point to Odin get the better of Big G.. in fact, Big G won every point of that fight.. which ended with Odin KOing himself.

To go further... When Doom had Galactus' power... He one shot Odin with ease. That is how easy it was.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not just you, but mostly you Big Leo. Which is fine, I don't mind going against the grain sometimes myself 😉 Point is though, that Tyrant looked superior in a direct comparision to their common foes.. Thanos and Big G and that is significant. These facts can't be gotten around....

1. Thanos went looking for a fight and to test his might against a worth foe. He prepped he amped for Tyrant and still lost and admitted he would be killed if he stayed. Now compare that to
1A. He wasn't looking for a fight with Odin.. he didn't prep or amp for Odin, in fact, he was seeking Odin's help. Yet, in a much longer fight STILL never admitted Odin was his superior nor backdown like he did with Tyrant.

2. Galactus backed down from Tyrant the first time he met Tyrant. The next time he prepped and fed like he hadn't in eons JUST to fight Tyrant. A Tyrant who was made in Galactus image to be his equal and parnter in the universe. Said Tyrant in his DP state had accumulated most, if not all of his power back and decided to challenge Galactus once more. During said fight... Tyrant got the better of Galactus at virutally every turn..
2A. Galactus never backed down from odin, in fact, he was even surprised Odin would even think of challenging him. He didn't feed to the extent he did for Tyrant nor was there any mention of Prep. At no point to Odin get the better of Big G.. in fact, Big G won every point of that fight.. which ended with Odin KOing himself.

To go further... When Doom had Galactus' power... He one shot Odin with ease. That is how easy it was.

airtight logic

Thanos didn't have to admit anything, their fight clearly showed that Odin was his superior.

He didn't have to admit it with Tyrant either.. as that fight showed Tyrant as his superior yet he still did. Given multiple opportunities to admit such with Odin.. Thanos never did, in fact, he wouldn't yield or concede anything.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He didn't have to admit it with Tyrant either.. as that fight showed Tyrant as his superior yet he still did. Given multiple opportunities to admit such with Odin.. Thanos never did, in fact, he wouldn't yield or concede anything.
This is a great and undeniable point. Thanos knows when he is close to death or being beaten and he disputed Odin's claims the entire time. You might have originally stolen this point from me. 🙂

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He didn't have to admit it with Tyrant either.. as that fight showed Tyrant as his superior yet he still did. Given multiple opportunities to admit such with Odin.. Thanos never did, in fact, he wouldn't yield or concede anything.

So?

what are we talking about?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
He didn't have to admit it with Tyrant either.. as that fight showed Tyrant as his superior yet he still did. Given multiple opportunities to admit such with Odin.. Thanos never did, in fact, he wouldn't yield or concede anything.
Thanos didn't say anything because he had a severe concussion and the "speech center" of his brain had been crushed down into his left boot by Odin.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
[B]Not just you, but mostly you Big Leo. Which is fine, I don't mind going against the grain sometimes myself 😉 Point is though, that Tyrant looked superior in a direct comparision to their common foes.. Thanos and Big G and that is significant. These facts can't be gotten around....

1. Thanos went looking for a fight and to test his might against a worth foe. He prepped he amped for Tyrant and still lost and admitted he would be killed if he stayed. Now compare that to
1A. He wasn't looking for a fight with Odin.. he didn't prep or amp for Odin, in fact, he was seeking Odin's help. Yet, in a much longer fight STILL never admitted Odin was his superior nor backdown like he did with Tyrant.

He was looking to test his might against Tyrant and he did. He survived a fight which is what he was looking for and took his prize. He even states it as much. Why would a being who embraces death be afraid of Tyrant killing him? That's the silliest nonsense. He left because there was no point to continuing seeing has Tyrant couldn't finish him given the chance, mocking Tyrant as he denied him his orb. If he was afraid of death, he would have given the orb back.

Lets say he was amp, it gave him power to knock Tyrant around. Without said amp, he wouldn't move Tyrant. Well then again, he didn't move Odin at all while Odin blasted him clear across the rainbow bridge straight into Asgard. Odin is at least on par with DP Tyrant but really he's above looking at all his feats.


2. Galactus backed down from Tyrant the first time he met Tyrant. The next time he prepped and fed like he hadn't in eons JUST to fight Tyrant. A Tyrant who was made in Galactus image to be his equal and parnter in the universe. Said Tyrant in his DP state had accumulated most, if not all of his power back and decided to challenge Galactus once more. During said fight... Tyrant got the better of Galactus at virutally every turn..
2A. Galactus never backed down from odin, in fact, he was even surprised Odin would even think of challenging him. He didn't feed to the extent he did for Tyrant nor was there any mention of Prep. At no point to Odin get the better of Big G.. in fact, Big G won every point of that fight.. which ended with Odin KOing himself.

Big G already raped a more powerful version and shrunk him to this state. The heralds and Thanos never backed down from Tyrant so does that mean they're more powerful than Big G? Big G jobbing to make others look good has been Galactus' history. So what if sometimes he's shown as a weakling to make others look good at times? Big G was afraid of Depowered Tyrant even though he beat FP Tyrant and shrank him to DP Tyrant. Great Logic.


To go further... When Doom had Galactus' power... He one shot Odin with ease. That is how easy it was.

Thank goodness this is Tyrant and not Tyrant with Galactus' powers. Tyrant full might would take it to Odin. Other than that, no way is a weaker version going to beat Odin. Doom with Galactus' powers would beat Galactus or FP Tyrant let's not kid ourselves.

^ that part where odin blasts thanos with gugnir there could be just thanos getting surprised by a more potent blast than the ones he was getting prior. as everyone knows thanos was later able to wade through a subsequent and sustained blast as well as grab gugnir. that matters a lot when dissecting that moment cause you'd think that thanos would have been weaker from the initial blast, yet he seemed even stronger from more energy (per second) hitting him soon after from the same source.

imo he was just jostled by more than he was bracing for as later he more than braced for it, he went forward through it like a bawse.

Can anyone post the picture of Doom beating Odin ?

doom can beat anyone*. that's no joke cause he has beaten beings on every level of the tier list...and he's beaten odin already

(* w/preparation)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ that part where odin blasts thanos with gugnir there could be just thanos getting surprised by a more potent blast than the ones he was getting prior. as everyone knows thanos was later able to wade through a subsequent and sustained blast as well as grab gugnir. that matters a lot when dissecting that moment cause you'd think that thanos would have been weaker from the initial blast, yet he seemed even stronger from more energy (per second) hitting him soon after from the same source.

imo he was just jostled by more than he was bracing for as later he more than braced for it, he went forward through it like a bawse.

You do understand the difference between looking to TEST your might... PREPPING and AMPING for a fight.. as opposed to... not looking for a fight, in fact, seeking somebody help who is tyring to fight you.. Not prepping or amping. Which one do you think go the more powerful Thanos? I mean this is common sense were WWK. Tryant got the more powerful version.. and yet.. in a much shorter fight admitted he would be killed if he stayed. That speaks volumes about who Thanos thought was superior having felt both of their powers. That person would be Tyrant.

Next, you have this idea where Thanos doean't fear dying or even wants to die because of his love for Mistress death. This couldn't be furhter from the truth.. and shows a very limited knowledge of the character that you have. Thanos on COUNTLESS occasions has fought for his life and or left when the going got tough. If he had this mindset you're talking about... They in each one of those situations where he was fighting back or leaving when the going got tough.. why would he if we bought into your simplistic view of Thanos that he doesn't care if he dies. Of course he cares if he dies and has tried to not make that happen COUNTELSS times.

Next, I think you're forgetting the fact that Tyrant GAINED most of if not all his power back when he decided to come out of hiding. The narration makes this crystal clear... To paraphrase... NOw that I've gained my power back.. I'm ready to challenge Galactus and rule the Universe. So clearly, after many many years Tyrant has been slowly gaining his power back along with much needed experience with his powers. People often think DP Tyrant was much weaker than FP and that isn't the case. He seemed to be only smaller in size than the original version.

Next, you act like Galactus OWNED Tyrant the first time they met... A battle that lasts thousands of years.. with galaxies destroyed as a side effect ISN'T an easy battle. There is no way on earth it ever could be. An easy battle is one shotting somebody or two or three shotting somebody. A battle that lasts THAT long and destroys that much stuff... is far from an easy battle. Thus, it makes perfect sense that if Tyrant had gained all his pwoer back.. he was once again a real threat to Galactus just like he was before. Which would expalin why Galactus TREATED him as such. He treated Tyant like he was a a major player and went out of character even for him. When he's dealt with Ego, Mephisto, Aug. and many others.. he treats them like they are well beneath him.. they ow dare they think they can even challenge him. He does this even in a STARVING state. Yet, against Tyrant he was VERY concerned about a battle with him. So much so that he prepped and feed like he hadn't in years just to battle him. SS confirms how big a threat Tyrant is.. when is shows via narration him saying... I have to hurry to the battle before they BOTH destroy one another. To act like Tyrant wsn't a threat is just plain silly.

Point is, Tyrant is above Odin and their common foes show that exact same thing.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Lets say he was amp, it gave him power to knock Tyrant around. Without said amp, he wouldn't move Tyrant. Well then again, he didn't move Odin at all while Odin blasted him clear across the rainbow bridge straight into Asgard. Odin is at least on par with DP Tyrant but really he's above looking at all his feats.

Wow, DP Tyrant NEVER sent Thanos flying like that!

Or tossed him around like a Rag Doll :

🙄

Big G already raped a more powerful version and shrunk him to this state. The heralds and Thanos never backed down from Tyrant so does that mean they're more powerful than Big G? Big G jobbing to make others look good has been Galactus' history. So what if sometimes he's shown as a weakling to make others look good at times? Big G was afraid of Depowered Tyrant even though he beat FP Tyrant and shrank him to DP Tyrant. Great Logic.

Your "logic" makes no sense since we have Galactus ON PANEL (under Marz) stating he didn't want to fight Tyrant at that time despite the fact that it was he that took Tyrant by surprise (saying the fight would be costly and cause great devastation). The Surfer even called him on it.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
^ that part where odin blasts thanos with gugnir there could be just thanos getting surprised by a more potent blast than the ones he was getting prior. as everyone knows thanos was later able to wade through a subsequent and sustained blast as well as grab gugnir. that matters a lot when dissecting that moment cause you'd think that thanos would have been weaker from the initial blast, yet he seemed even stronger from more energy (per second) hitting him soon after from the same source.

imo he was just jostled by more than he was bracing for as later he more than braced for it, he went forward through it like a bawse.


Exactly.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
How is this thread still going on besides Leo trying to hold onto the idea of Odin winning. Most think he losses... and that thinking would be spot on. Tyrant was portrayed as someone above Odin, and that is exactly what he is.. Above Odin.

Let's tally up the votes of people who think Odin wins or breaks even

Iceman
Damborgson
Leo
Me
Whitewitchking
ZopZop
guy
The darkone
Stoic
zeel
dampyre
Rage
Lannfear
darkodin
Horrificus
Lordof murder
h1a8

Against 2 or 3 guys against (namely you and quanchi)
And that's just from the first 4 pages!

Now how in the world is that just Leo going on?

Originally posted by curryman
Let's tally up the votes of people who think Odin wins or [b]breaks even

Iceman
Damborgson
Leo
Me
Whitewitchking
ZopZop
guy
The darkone
Stoic
zeel
dampyre
Rage
Lannfear
darkodin
Horrificus
Lordof murder
h1a8

Against 2 or 3 guys against (namely you and quanchi)
And that's just from the first 4 pages!

Now how in the world is that just Leo going on? [/B]


Leave me off that list.

I said :
1) was split (and that was me being SUPER generous to Odin and even then with stips)
2) I gave this to Odin
3) I said Tyrant wins every time

I'm on Team Tyrant all the way and for good reason.

Originally posted by curryman
Let's tally up the votes of people who think Odin wins or breaks even

Iceman
Damborgson
Leo
Me
Whitewitchking
ZopZop
guy
The darkone
Stoic
zeel
dampyre
Rage
Lannfear
darkodin
Horrificus
Lordof murder
h1a8

Against 2 or 3 guys against (namely you and quanchi)
And that's just from the first 4 pages!

Now how in the world is that just Leo going on?


😑

I am fairly sure that there are others as well whom you got wrong here.

I'm talking about all three fights, in case that wasn't clear.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
😑

I am fairly sure that there are others as well whom you got wrong here.

He quoted my post in agreement...

And I said people who agreed that it was Odin's win or that they broke even