Originally posted by zopzop
On a dead world?
As far as I know, that distinction doesn't usually matter as long as it has a biosphere (This one supported life once for example) no?
Originally posted by zopzop
On the one hand, you have a skyfather, one of 13, that's worshiped by a few thousand people on one planet out of the billions of planets that exist in the universe.On the other hand you have a being older than the current universe that acts as the balancing force between two elite abstracts.
It makes perfect sense.
So station or age represents power? Odin in Fraction's run apparently predated the current Universe and his line is pivotal in the structure of the Multiverse with the World Seed that sets the Multiversal Axis during every cycle or whatever (Fraction was purposefully confusing).
Also, Odin isn't just one Skyfather out of 13. He's pretty much the Skyfather (Sorry Zeus, but it's true); he started out as the ultimate power in Marvel and has been on par with Abstracts until he was depowered with the coming of the Celestials.
Odin being more powerful than a hungry Galactus and being on the same level as a fed Galactus is perfectly reasonable.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
As far as I know, that distinction doesn't usually matter as long as it has a biosphere (This one supported life once for example) no?
But if that world was a dead one, it wasn't much of a feast for him. Do you have the scan?
So station or age represents power? Odin in Fraction's run apparently predated the current Universe and his line is pivotal in the structure of the Multiverse with the World Seed that sets the Multiversal Axis during every cycle or whatever (Fraction was purposefully confusing).Also, Odin isn't just one Skyfather out of 13. He's pretty much the Skyfather (Sorry Zeus, but it's true); he started out as the ultimate power in Marvel and has been on par with Abstracts until he was depowered with the coming of the Celestials.
Odin being more powerful than a hungry Galactus and being on the same level as a fed Galactus is perfectly reasonable.
Also during most cosmic events Skyfathers are usually AWOL but Galactus is right there in the middle of things.
Originally posted by zopzopI do remember that being said in a couple stories over the years. Specifically, that "biospheric" energy was his real meat and potatoes.As far as I know, he purposely seeks out worlds rich in biospheric energy because he lives off that stuff. He can drain power/devour other things but he specifically needs biospheric energy to survive (it was stated on panel and in his handbook entry).
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Originally posted by zopzopAs far as I know, he purposely seeks out worlds rich in biospheric energy because he lives off that stuff. He can drain power/devour other things but he specifically needs biospheric energy to survive (it was stated on panel and in his handbook entry).
But if that world was a dead one, it wasn't much of a feast for him. Do you have the scan?
Not really but you asked why people see Galactus as >>>>>>>>>>>>Odin. Just giving reasons why that would be so.
Also during most cosmic events Skyfathers are usually AWOL but Galactus is right there in the middle of things. [/B]
Even more so than this are the actual recent depictions of Galactus vs Celestials and Odin. All the speculation was put to rest. Not sure what the argument is.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Personally, I felt Fraction was clear in his intent:Galactus > Odin.
The gap wasn't nearly as huge as people think or would it like to be
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pretty much precisely what i've been saying this whole thread. now, add in the destroyer armor, and i think the battle becomes even closer. shrug
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
So:1) Fighting like a complete idiot...
2) Failing to realize that a LARGE TALKING CATAPILLAR is more than a "mere catapillar"...
3) Being near Omniscient and failing to realize the above and that a physical approach isnt the way to win...
Add all that up, and Galactus jobbed bigtime; he's written as an idiot way too often...
They job him at will...you really want to argue that zopzop?
Originally posted by zopzop
Tyrant is NOT below Galactus. At least not since he reappeared on the scene from his exile, that much was stated and shown on panel.Not Galactus' blasts (which Tyrant absorbed), nor his physical attacks (which Tyrant regened from) nor his machines (which Tyrant took over) saved a FULLY fed (and stated by him that the world he feasted on was rich in biospheric energies and he hadn't felt that powerful in eons) Galactus ON HIS HOME TURF from Tyrant.
So make of that what you will.
hmm, what i make of it is pretty simple--galactus beat him in a fight already. tyrant's actions don't act as a retcon. it's possible that tyrant learned a new trick--absorbing g's power. but that doesn't mean he's necessarily MORE powerful. just well suited to beat g (and a little pis-sy maybe...) regardless, that trick wouldn't work on odin, so....it doesn't really matter very much imo.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin in Fraction's run apparently predated the current Universe and his line is pivotal in the structure of the Multiverse with the World Seed that sets the Multiversal Axis during every cycle or whatever (Fraction was purposefully confusing).
Edit: Btw, in Hickman's run the Worldseed was a creation of Eternity that was meant to release a new Galactus into the Universe.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Especially since it was pointed out Galactus was injured and hungry IIRC.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Surfer even claimed that finishing off the regular Asgardian army was beyond him.
Originally posted by leonidas
hmm, what i make of it is pretty simple--galactus beat him in a fight already. tyrant's actions don't act as a retcon. it's possible that tyrant learned a new trick--absorbing g's power. but that doesn't mean he's necessarily MORE powerful. just well suited to beat g (and a little pis-sy maybe...) regardless, that trick wouldn't work on odin, so....it doesn't really matter very much imo.
Nitpick (important nitpick however)...
Tyrant didnt learn a new trick (absorbing Galactus's Power); Galactus FORGOT Tyrant could do this (its plainly stated on panel)...
As a matter of fact, Galactus forgot Tyrants ENTIRE POWER SET (all stated clearly on panel) despite:
1) Being Tyrants creator...
2) Having had run into him a few issues earlier...
3) Having prepped for Tyrant and having him on his mind...
Theres that jobber Galactus showing up again; they job Galactus out at will like its an ongoing joke...
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I mean, hell, Thanos was able to send Galactus flying from a single blast and forced him to expend energy in their brief encounter in spite of the inevitability of the outcome.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'd imagine Odin would fare better. And imo, he did.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin being more powerful than a hungry Galactus and being on the same level as a fed Galactus is perfectly reasonable.
How is Odin on the same level as a fed Galactus reasonable when G was portrayed as superior? On panel, Odin stated he didn't have the strength to continue then he got koed. They are not in the same ballpark.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin being more powerful than a hungry Galactus and being on the same level as a fed Galactus is perfectly reasonable.
Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Nitpick (important nitpick however)...Tyrant didnt learn a new trick (absorbing Galactus's Power); Galactus [b]FORGOT
Tyrant could do this (its plainly stated on panel)...As a matter of fact, Galactus forgot Tyrants ENTIRE POWER SET (all stated clearly on panel) despite:
1) Being Tyrants creator...
2) Having had run into him a few issues earlier...
3) Having prepped for Tyrant and having him on his mind...
Theres that jobber Galactus showing up again; they job Galactus out at will like its an ongoing joke... [/B]
I thought I explained that to you not that long ago:
Originally posted by Sundipped
Under writer Ron Martz who wrote the first confrontation, there was no absorption or tech advantage to speak of. Galactus blasted him with no repercussions. Then along comes writer Mike Lackey who all of a sudden introduces the advantage and writes that G forgot about these powers. I think the plot was predetermined with this discrepancy not really being a big deal. Writers aren't as consistent / concerned with intricate details as the reader.
Short memory?
Originally posted by Sundipped
I thought I explained that to you not that long ago:Short memory?
I remember your post well and to counter it, I contend that it was still PIS regardless if Tyrant was always meant to be a threat to Galactus...
They wrote Galactus as a flaming idiot that had the memory of a retard in that fight; this is indisputable...
A character can be intended to lose to someone and it not be PIS, but Galactus was written down (huge lack of intelligence; failure to remember vital, important, facts about his opponent) to make Tyrant look good...
Got it?