Riddick (2013)

Started by Esau Cairn31 pages
Originally posted by Dolos
No, I saw an attractive female, saw rejection and violence toward him, and then I saw her turn into a total **** for another dude after claiming she was a lesbian.

Santana was a total sleaze. There was no redeeming characteristics about him whatsoever. The 1st time he met Dahl, he belittled her into nothing but a sex object....he wasn't exactly giving her roses & asking for a date. Of course he deserved the rejection & 2 punches in the face.

Yes, Dahl claiming to be a lesbian then getting the hots for Riddick did seem out of place for her character but to me, it was meant to say that Riddick radiated "raw animal magnetism" that would even turn a lesbian.

Originally posted by Mindset
Yea, definitely explains our high rate of violent crimes.

Then move to Australia mate.
The last thing we worry about is idiots walking around armed with guns.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Santana was a total sleaze. There was no redeeming characteristics about him whatsoever. The 1st time he met Dahl, he belittled her into nothing but a sex object....he wasn't exactly giving her roses & asking for a date. Of course he deserved the rejection & 2 punches in the face.

Yes, Dahl claiming to be a lesbian then getting the hots for Riddick did seem out of place for her character but to me, it was meant to say that Riddick radiated "raw animal magnetism" that would even turn a lesbian.

I understand that. But I'm telling you Santana's character, Riddick's character, are examples of conscientious comprehension - I comprehend those facts but to me this comprehension is just meaningless raw data. Rejection is more than that, it means hurt, to me it means harm and terror. I've never been raped, giving off "animal magnetism" wasn't very meaningful to me, but rejection and abuse, that's a POWERFUL feeling. A feeling that kills my vibe, I lose the facade of security I carry around.

I know that being raped is probably worse than rejection, but I can't comprehend being raped as a woman because I am not a woman, it's difficult for me to fully comprehend. I've never had my limbs cut off, but amputees terrify me because I can fully comprehend deformity and what that would be like for me. Maybe I should be more put off by rape than rejection, the fact I'm not is a reflection of how I'm a broken person. But for some reason, it upset me. Maybe I've been accused of being a sleaze like Santana, maybe I related to him because I used to be as pathetic as him. It's made me who I am which is good, but the experience threw me off in this movie, it was powerfully demoralizing, no argument you give will change that. How rape victims are afraid of men, I'm literally of women I find attractive. They scare me, and I am unable to have a relationship because of that.

Okay.
Not having a go at you & yes, you're not the only one to feel rejection in life...but yes, unfortunately it's part of human nature & as long as you interact in society, you're going to get rejected again one way or another. Deal with it. Move on. Become stronger.

If a movie that's about silly action & adventure brings all this emotion out of you then maybe you need counselling...someone to get the angst out.

And stop being so Emo.

I don't feel like I can ever have a relationship with them, so much so I can't even look at women in a sexual way anymore, I feel too pathetic. Anyone, I'm alone because I'm ill-equipped. It's no way to live. I'll admit it online, **** it, I have ED. I've "manned up", I've gotten to first base, it didn't help me. I had the ability, but in my mind, I was irrationally insecure.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Then move to Australia mate.
The last thing we worry about is idiots walking around armed with guns.

Only thing we really worry about here is people king hitting other people.

Originally posted by Kazenji
Only thing we really worry about here is people king hitting other people.

Yup, it should be re-named, The Coward's Punch.
Put that on their criminal record.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
Yeah I didn't get the point of her character...

I mean the merc ship looked pretty big & powerful & yet they had to sacrifice her to make room for Riddick?

And considering they really only needed Riddick's head in the first place...

That was weird.

Keri Hilson's character did seem a little random at first, but Santana did say something like, "I was beginning to get attached to her." Spoken like a true misogynist. He truly hates and mistrusts women. And it made for an effective little moment when Riddick removed his goggles and looked her in the eyes as the blood emptied from her body. As if he realized in that moment, "This guy is extremely fu#cked up," which is why he promised that when the chains come off, he would go in the first 5 seconds. He really didn't like the guy for his unnecessary cruelty. It gave justification for Riddick's brutality, although, the death he gave Santana was probably too short and merciful for what he deserved.

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
violence = gritty?

To some extent, yeah, absolutely. The movies he mentioned were pretty damn violent. But sometimes less is more. Twohy knows that. And sometimes more is more: hense the violently displayed decapitation. It made for a big laugh and shock moment in the film. Pitch Black didn't have a lot of blood and guts. Just enough to haunt the imagination, and that's often the best way to go. But fu#k, if we get to see Underverse with an R rating, shit is probably gonna get REAL. lol

And tonally (perhaps that's what Esau means by "gritty"?) it was at least on par with Pitch Black, if not darker. If Esau expected it to stray tonally from the previous films, then I think he had the wrong expectations. It sounds like I am one of few who had the proper expectations for this movie. I've seen lots of picky peeps griping about it. I didn't expect much development as far as the expanded mythology, but I still expected it to have the same tone, which they have been very careful to maintain. It's not a "reboot" (that word is annoying these days); it's a continuation, so it had to stay somewhat in line with CoR, too.

And contrary to some people's interpretation of Riddick (Robtard most likely), I don't think Riddick is a psychopath or someone who murders for fun or something like that. It's a survival thing. He fu#ks with people whom he feels deserve it. He's been driven to this lifestyle where mercs are always after him ("I had mercs on my neck. I'll always have mercs on my neck!"😉. He just wants to be left alone. Hence why he's an "anti-hero." I think he liked Boss Johns. Even though Johns junior was a dick, he didn't hold it against Johns senior, because clearly he didn't know his son very well. Didn't know he was a morphine jumky. I think Riddick respected Johns for simply being a grieving father wanting answers about what happened to his son. I think that's why they cast Johns senior the way they did. He had a very likable demeanor. Boss Johns said, "That blade was meant for me, wasn't it?" Riddick responded, "Anyone who deserved it, really." And at the end Johns confronted Riddick about all the death on the planet and said he'd have trouble "over-looking it." Riddick said something like, "It would be different if they were trying to put my head in a box."

Originally posted by Patient_Leech

And tonally (perhaps that's what Esau means by "gritty"?) it was at least on par with Pitch Black, if not darker. If Esau expected it to stray tonally from the previous films, then I think he had the wrong expectations. It sounds like I am one of few who had the proper expectations for this movie.

I think what I meant for being less gritty was that I already knew what to expect...from a Riddick movie.

And don't get me wrong, I'm a big Riddick fan, big enough to seriously contemplate having him tattooed on me.

I loved Pitch Dark where Riddick rose to become the central character as the story progressed. I loved the pathos of having to rely on a killer (that you didn't trust) to survive.

I loved the dark gothic themes & images of CoR...mixing Greek & Christian mythologies of death with sci-fi. This, to me, was a realm that Riddick easily existed in.

I guess with the 3rd movie, I just felt Riddick was too confident & in control of things, not once do you feel he's in any danger at all.
I mean he didn't know how many mercs would come once he pressed the distress beacon & he didn't flinch when not one but two ships of mercs arrived. I would honestly loved to have seen more traps, a montage of killing mercs...a more savage Riddick.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I loved the dark gothic themes & images of CoR...mixing Greek & Christian mythologies of death with sci-fi. This, to me, was a realm that Riddick easily existed in.

Agreed, and hopefully that will continue somehow.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I guess with the 3rd movie, I just felt Riddick was too confident & in control of things, not once do you feel he's in any danger at all.
I mean he didn't know how many mercs would come once he pressed the distress beacon...

He didn't give a fu#k, he wanted a taxi off the planet. Don't forget that he got stabbed rather seriously and had to cauterize the wound to continue. See the film again and that scene plays out VERY well. Shit looked serious.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
I would honestly loved to have seen more traps, a montage of killing mercs...a more savage Riddick.
Well Jesus, I thought my expectations were high. They could always go further, so be happy with what you get with a $38 million budget. I thought they spent the money pretty well, honestly, with the CGI planet / jackals / mud demons, which for the most part looked excellent.

My only complaints with the film:

1. When Riddick is getting taken down with the tranquilizers, he should have been violently mutilating a disposable merc in slow-motion instead of just falling. (probably more of a budget issue than anything)
2. I was a little surprised that there wasn't a Judy Dench sound-alike voice-over somewhere, since such an actress was credited on IMDB.
3. Was expecting a bit more of a cliffhanger, but instead shit could go ANYWHERE, which was probably smart, in case they want to continue with a lower budget feel again...

...otherwise, very little complaint, about what I expected: great story, tone, effects.

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So that game Vin hinted at is a mobile game......ugh

Update-

found out that isn't the one he hinted at it, There is a third game coming similar to those two.

^ Is it going to be available for android or is it just for Apple shit?

Looks like it some Apple Shit.

Originally posted by Patient_Leech

My only complaints with the film:

It just seemed a bit stupid that Riddick would bury & hide the 2 power cells together knowing how important he needed one of them to get off the planet. Yeah I know he buried a weapon too but it just seemed pointless to expose them both when giving one back to Johns.

I would've also liked to see a longer time period between Santana's ship & Johns arriving instead of within hours of each other.
Riddick could've gone on a brutal killing spree knowing these men wanted him dead then Johns arrives wanting Riddick alive changing his tactics to survive. Johns & his mercs could've proved to be more cunning hunters than Santana's hired killers.

I liked some scenes tats all im going to say.

Okay it made no sence tat johns bought the story about his son so fast in such a short amount of time, johns came with anger where was their fight?

Originally posted by rudester
...tats all im going to say.

I don't remember any tats in the movie. T!ts, yeah, but no tats.

Don't think he would notice the t!ts that much, Since he's gay going by his previous's posts on here.

Im using my phone u dick(s). My computer crashed 3 months ago not tat anyone noticed. Tat still means that in short form and i take it back the movie was shit. Ha! Rid dick more like red dick!

Originally posted by rudester
Im using my phone u dick(s). My computer crashed 3 months ago not tat anyone noticed. Tat still means that in short form and i take it back the movie was shit. Ha! Rid dick more like red dick!

Sorry to hear about your computer, but I'm afraid you and I can no longer be friends because I have trouble tolerating such horrendous spelling and grammar. I find it inconsiderate. *wags finger*