Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
No, now you've gotten my points confused.What I was pointing out was that there are several incarnations of G1.
#1: there are the comics, of which the canon gets regularly retconned into it's current form. This is the primary canon.
#2: There is the G1 toons, which, while they are still g1, it has it's own separate canon that is distinctly different from the comics. Essentially the toons are big advertisements for the toys.
The new stuff still moves around the events of G1.
And according to you having just single handedly elected Simon Furman as sole Canon manager, Unicron has his origins.
Besides this, I already dropped the comic canon thing anyways, why is this still being brought up?
But if you've now acknowledged that, you could maybe apologise for calling that person a liar for pointing out something you had indeed done, and move in accordance with good form...
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroI suppose me citing the episode in the G1 toon that this is explained specifically is not enough for you. This proves you are a know-nothing troll.
*i present damning evidence*
Originally posted by Darkstorm ZeroBesides this, I already dropped the comic canon thing anyways, why is this still being brought up?
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Yes, I followed it from UK issue number 3 and am well aware of the differences in format between Marvel and Sunbow versions, thank you.The new stuff still moves around the events of G1.
And according to you having just single handedly elected Simon Furman as sole Canon manager, Unicron has his origins.
All I said was that the two continuities are distincly different. He wants to use toonverse G1, and thats fine. Even if it is also the single most inconsistent one available.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
Because you accused someone here of being a liar, denying that you'd bought it up at all. (When you had.)But if you've now acknowledged that, you could maybe apologise for calling that person a liar for pointing out something you had indeed done, and move in accordance with good form...
I'm not apollogising, because he re-raised that point well after I dropped it. he wanted to bring it back up to have a stab, so thats not my fault. I take responsability for my own actions, but I will not take responsability for someone else retrenching a previously downed point because he cannot let it go.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
*i present damning evidence*
Your loopy... There is no denying it....
The episode "Call Of The Primitives" is from the toon, not from the comics, exactly as you demanded. And I presented that video to prove you were wrong about the quintesson thing. After the rule thing, I did drop the comics line entirely, then YOU brought it back up.
And you still failed to answer my points.... What the ever living hell man?
Originally posted by focus4chumps
bruce willis. he's choosing a multi-angled line of clowning.my favorite so far is the "deny fact, demand evidence, then ignore evidence". dont know why i keep feeding this troll.
How can i deny evidence that has never been shown on your part? You never answered my points, you never presented any evidence, all you did was point up like it meant something.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
All I said was that the two continuities are distincly different. He wants to use toonverse G1, and thats fine. Even if it is also the single most inconsistent one available.
I'm not apollogising, because he re-raised that point well after I dropped it. he wanted to bring it back up to have a stab, so thats not my fault. I take responsability for my own actions, but I will not take responsability for someone else retrenching a previously downed point because he cannot let it go.
But again: You denied mentioning it then called him unfairly him a liar for having pointed out that you were talking Comics canon.*
You dropped it after unfairly calling him a liar.
(*When "movie canon and movie canon only" is the name of the game here...)
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Your loopy... There is no denying it....The episode "Call Of The Primitives" is from the toon, not from the comics, exactly as you demanded. And I presented that video to prove you were wrong about the quintesson thing. After the rule thing, I did drop the comics line entirely, then YOU brought it back up.
But the G1 toon is inadmissible here, isn't it... Only movie feats/canon.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But you denied mentioning it...then called, unfairly, him a liar for his pointing out that you had mentioned it.
Because he had used to to try and down an actually valid point for no reason.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But again: You denied mentioning it then called him unfairly him a liar for having pointed out that you were talking Comics canon.*
You dropped it after unfairly calling him a liar.(*When "movie canon and movie canon only" is the name of the game here...)
Because he had used to to try and down an actually valid point for no reason. I'm sorry, but thats not going to fly, I dropped it, and then he used it as ammo in the next point that had nothing to do with it, as a means to discredit and handwave away a legit point.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
but its ok, you already conceited the fallacious canon point and admitted your time-wasting clown tactics. well you should have by now anyway.
It was not a clown tactic, I legitimately did not see that statute in the rules, thats a LITTLE different from doing it on purpose with the intent to actually cause distress to someone.
Originally posted by Sadako of Girth
But the G1 toon is inadmissible here, isn't it... Only movie feats/canon.
Not according to the OP who started this whole mess...
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
It was not a clown tactic, I legitimately did not see that statute in the rules, thats a LITTLE different from doing it on purpose with the intent to actually cause distress to someone.
says the self proclaimed rule-expert
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Concession accepted, if the only thing you can do is whine about irrelevant side points, then your argument is already lost.Especially since your OP pretty much breaks the rules Impediment set in place with This. And this is why I asked for clarification.
Still, since you have seemingly given up and not answered a single other point at all, i'm going to say that Unicron wastes the Willis clones, because you don't have a single relevant point to counter it with.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Ya know what, I'm reporting this because it's obvious trolling and for no ther reason than to be a smart@$$. I'm not having it.
Well SG, here is what he said earlier...
Originally posted by focus4chumps
LOL!!! "the forum title is not relevant".G1 is the only relevant material as the movie was birthed from that cartoon and not vice versa. beastwars and the rest of that gayness has nothing at all to do with the film cannon of the 1986 film
*Shrugs*
Originally posted by focus4chumps
that was a reference to continuity, not film canon. any more out-of-context quotes? or do you need another round of pillow-screaming first?
No, that was you being selective about what is allowed and what is not. And you have no room to speak about out-of-context quotes when you buchered my posts and twist it to whatever suits your fancy and snip out massive chunks you can't argue in the proccess.
Originally posted by focus4chumps
and there it is.another point of blatant hypocrisy thrown in your face and all you can do is dance. grow up and let go of your butthurt. stop derailing and troilling the thread so that the adults can discuss.
Whats that again? This, from the person who decides he will only argue the one point he can win? The hypocricy is palpable here 😂