Unicron Vs John Mcclane, Korben Dallas, Joe Colton (G.I.Joe), and Butch(pulp fiction)

Started by focus4chumps16 pages

also nice how when you are proven wrong, you quickly switch points like it never happened.

-first his brain wall was dilapidated.

-as per the usual you were proven wrong.

-concede that particular point? NOOOOO. that would be non-infantile. lets just ignore that and move on to the magical drill theme. you've done this nonstop and it makes you look extremely petty, spiteful, angry and childish.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
also nice how when you are proven wrong, you quickly switch points like it never happened.

-first his brain wall was dilapidated.

-as per the usual you were proven wrong.

-concede that particular point? NOOOOO. that would be non-infantile. lets just ignore that and move on to the magical drill theme. you've done this nonstop and it makes you look extremely petty, spiteful, angry and childish.

He's actually not wrong on both accounts. For one Unicron's head had gone through a dramatic event and could have weakened the wall. Odds are in favor it did considering it got exploded pretty badly.

The drill is Cybertronian in nature and still beyond the capabilities of the exo-suit.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
"OMG IF I GO ALL CAPS MAYBE MY RIDICULOUSLY FALSE OVERSTATING OF FEATS WILL GO UNNOTICED!!!!!!!!!11111ONEONEELEVENTYONE

I am TRYING to get you to frigging notice the point that actually matters, it's not my fault you seem to have trouble addressing the entire point, again.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
right so it was actually a magical wall only vulnerable to one particular drill. "durabilyum"? are we trying to shoehorn more comic book nonesense into the discussion for the win, AGAIN?

If I had said that anywhere, please quote it. My point is that it's not something the Exosuit can dupicate at all, ever.

The hell? The technobots are MADE from the same material as Unicron's head anyway. Not something the exosuits can claim, it could be called unobtanium for all I care, but it is clearly not the same stuff as common earth steel.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
they have built in blasters and can throw heavy objects, both of which have proven to suck for unicrons insides.

Circumstances that surroud those events, which have been pointed out to you already, cast severe doubt as to wether or not that would ever even work the way your seeming to predict it would. AND, lets be clear here, the Willis clones are mostly clueless with reguards to technology, especially true for John Mcclane going by DH4.0. How are they ever expected to know to hit anything vital?

And just as a kicker, if his regeneration is as good as Sadako mentioned with reguards to the damage MB2 somehow must've done to Unicron's internals, and happened to regenerate that damage in less than 24 hours, how can you expect the Exosuits to cause any permanent damage before it fixes itself, they would be going in circles trying to hurt the stuff, only to find the nice holes they blew into the hull vanish in a few minutes?

Originally posted by focus4chumps

im curious as well. though i would rather not have G1 series apply since it dooms unicron.

Not necessarily as far as my memory serves me Unicron was never in a whole state after the film, so considering that his feats from the film are still his only feats where we see him operating or shown under prime condition.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero

If I had said that anywhere, please quote it. My point is that it's not something the Exosuit can dupicate at all, ever.
Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
The hell? The technobots are MADE from the same material as Unicron's head anyway. Not something the exosuits can claim, it could be called unobtanium for all I care, but it is clearly not the same stuff as common earth steel.

i didnt have to look far 😂 how considerate of you.

"all the metal in unicron is a special metal that the rest of the transformers didn't have. no citation needed since i own the videos and am thus a default expert on the matter so just shut up"

Originally posted by Newjak
Not necessarily as far as my memory serves me Unicron was never in a whole state after the film, so considering that his feats from the film are still his only feats where we see him operating or shown under prime condition.

the issue is the structural integrity of his innards. also, a pristine wall inside a busted unicron is still a pristine wall.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
i didnt have to look far 😂 how considerate of you.

"all the metal in unicron is a special metal that the rest of the transformers didn't have. no citation needed since i own the videos and am thus a default expert on the matter so just shut up"

Are you being intentionally dese on purpose? Seriously?

And once again, you focus on one point and ignore the rest.... You bore me now kid.

I asked you to prove where I shoehorned in comic canon. Those same profiles are found in the DVD box sets. What, is suddenly EVERYTHING bar what you want from the toons inadmissable during this little shitfling of yours?

And I suppose it is, yes, everything else about him is unique, Hell the very reason that fight took place inside Unicron's head was so that the 'Cons could get their hands on something in there that does not exist anywhere else. And considering that by that point it was the 3rd time a battle had taken place in Unicron's head for similar reasons.

Also, I have no idea why you decided to reignite the shitflinging again, but knock it off, or you are going back on my ignore list permanently, then you can go back to barking after every one of Sadako's posts like a Chihuahua, like you have done over the last page and a half.

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Are you being intentionally dese on purpose? Seriously?

And once again, you focus on one point and ignore the rest.... You bore me now kid.

I asked you to prove where I shoehorned in comic canon. Those same profiles are found in the DVD box sets. What, is suddenly EVERYTHING bar what you want from the toons inadmissable during this little shitfling of yours?

And I suppose it is, yes, everything else about him is unique, Hell the very reason that fight took place inside Unicron's head was so that the 'Cons could get their hands on something in there that does not exist anywhere else. And considering that by that point it was the 3rd time a battle had taken place in Unicron's head for similar reasons.

Also, I have nop idea why you decided to reignite the shitflinging again, but knock it off, or you are going back on my ighnore list permanently, then you can go back to barking after every one of Sadako's oosts like a Chihuahua, like you have done over the ast page and a half.

ok good, you have no proof that unicron is made entirely of some unique metal. now we can throw away that silly non-point and proceed from there.

Originally posted by Newjak
Has Impediment made a ruling on this?

I would like to see it if he did. 🙂

He has:

The MVF Golden Rule:
What is seen on screen is canon in these forums. If your character you wish to use has feats/actions/handicaps that contradict what that character did on screen (movie canon), then it is a violation and is illegal. MOVIE FEATS ONLY!

This isn't the first time something like this has happened, trying to use non movie feats from other canon sources such as shows, comics and/or books.

Maybe he'll make a special exception here, but normally he sticks to the Golden Rule.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
the issue is the structural integrity of his innards. also, a pristine wall inside a busted unicron is still a pristine wall.
Pristine?

How do you know it was Pristine?

It was attacked by an energy source capable of exploding a planet sized transformer. That wall is definitely not pristine, it can't be and if the wall was pristine than that drill would have to be excessively tough and still not something the exosuits are capable of.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
ok good, you have no proof that unicron is made entirely of some unique metal. now we can throw away that silly non-point and proceed from there.

You can't read... I'm sorry, but this is just impossible, I guess the meaning of the word Unique is some black voodoo magic to you.

I can't work with this insulting reprobate any longer, you are a welcome first addition to my ignore list.

Originally posted by Newjak
Pristine?

How do you know it was Pristine?

It was attacked by an energy source capable of exploding a planet sized transformer. That wall is definitely not pristine

Originally posted by focus4chumps

🙂 dance.

and dance again 🙂

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
You can't read... I'm sorry, but this is just impossible, I guess the meaning of the word Unique is some black voodoo magic to you.

I can't work with this insulting reprobate any longer, you are a welcome first addition to my ignore list.

point shot down due to zero evidence, and cue the crying and accusations of "troll" and public announcements of ignoring (lol) and rage quit.

how mature

i could say "concession accepted" but that would be infantile, right?

:edit" "Darkstorm Zero - Reporting a Post" oh dear baby

Originally posted by focus4chumps
and dance again 🙂
That doesn't make it Pristine metal can still be weakened and warped and look similar to that.

And like I said even if it was Pristine that means it survived an explosion big enough to destroy a planet sized transformer so that drill would have to be better than that explosion in terms of being able to damage that wall.

Originally posted by Newjak
That doesn't make it Pristine metal can still be weakened and warped and look similar to that.

downplaying with no evidence.

Originally posted by Newjak
And like I said even if it was Pristine that means it survived an explosion big enough to destroy a planet sized transformer so that drill would have to be better than that explosion in terms of being able to damage that wall.

the explosion occured within unicron's mouth, which logically would need to be stronger in order to chew up frikin planets into a digestible mush. you are just blindly assuming that all materials within him are of the same strength, spitting in the face of resounding evidence against. by your logic, sir lancelot likely had an iron spleen.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
downplaying with no evidence.

the explosion occured within unicron's mouth, which logically would need to be stronger in order to chew up frikin planets into a digestible mush. you are just blindly assuming that all materials within him are of the same strength, spitting in the face of resounding evidence against. by your logic, sir lancelot likely had an iron spleen.

The explosion occurred throughout his entire body the same body that took the moon base destruction.

Originally posted by Newjak
throughout his entire body

no, it occured in his mouth and around his outer-body in planet form.

your insistance that every part of him has the same armor is completely baseless and counterintuitive to boot.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
no, it occured in his mouth and around his outer-body in planet form.

your insistance that every part of him has the same armor is completely baseless and counterintuitive to boot.

I was talking about the Matrix explosion when I said the went through an plant size transformer destroying explosion.

...but the matrix caused unicron to self destruct. it wasnt any blast that damaged him, he was the blast. however, his head was not blown to bits like the rest of him.

Originally posted by focus4chumps
...but the matrix caused unicron to self destruct. it wasnt any blast that damaged him, he was the blast.
Even if that were true, based on your track record I will rewatch the scene cause I'm not sure of if what you say is true or not, it does changes the bearings of my statement. The head was next to an explosion that destroyed a planet-sized transformer, We already know it didn't come away unscathed it's incredibly slim odds anything inside of that head wasn't damaged or warped.

And even if that was the case that means the head can survive planetary level destruction so that had to be one powerful drill.