Odin/Thor vs Galactus

Started by TheGodKiller7 pages

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Also, the blast exploded directly after.

Like seriously.


This too.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
They were portrayed as peers on a spiritual and metaphysical level. Nobody disputes that physically Thor was the mightiest of the 3, but the Godblast is an attack fueled by everything they were.

that's fair enough. i disagree completely that if that blast were focused in its entirety upon g or any of the others that the effect would have been the same. again, a very specific amount of energy was released, said energy was absorbed by 3 abstract level entities, not one. not sure how you can't see what a massive difference that is, but....whatever. we seem to disagree a lot lately, so, meh.

As Brevoort said, reasonably fed the same result can be expected as when Odin Destroyer faced the Celestials. Just fed on 1 nice planet is reasonably-fed I think.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
If the other 2 weren't there, then the blast that hit them would have hit... space.

The blast wasn't wasted this way, and it wrapped around all of them. It's not like it dissipated after hitting someone.

Galactus wasn't hungry this time. Galactus wasn't unshielded while engaging in a TP fight. Galactus was directly in battle mode, and an amped G-Blast did shit.
As it should be.

the fact that it's a focused is the point of a god blast. if it is or isn't one is not the point anymore, but saying it doesn't matter if most of the attack missed galactus doesn't meant it would be the same if everything went right at him like the god blasts of decades past.

Originally posted by leonidas
that's fair enough. i disagree completely that if that blast were focused in its entirety upon g or any of the others that the effect would have been the same. again, a very specific amount of energy was released, said energy was absorbed by 3 abstract level entities, not one. not sure how you can't see what a massive difference that it, but....whatever. we seem to disagree a lot lately, so, meh.

But it was pretty much focused in its entirety against Galactus. Or did you not see the panel in which he's standing at the epicentre of the blast? Based on the angle at which the art is drawn it sure looks that way at least. That energy was shown focused on the 3 Abstracts alone, with a bog boomboom occurring in its aftermath which koed the (forcefield shielded)heralds. Galactus tanked that blast straight up without so much so as a lasting scratch.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
As Brevoort said, reasonably fed the same result can be expected as when Odin Destroyer faced the Celestials. Just fed on 1 nice planet is reasonably-fed I think.

really? that's interesting, actually. where did he say that?

Originally posted by leonidas
that's fair enough. i disagree completely that if that blast were focused in its entirety upon g or any of the others that the effect would have been the same. again, a very specific amount of energy was released, said energy was absorbed by 3 abstract level entities, not one. not sure how you can't see what a massive difference that is, but....whatever. we seem to disagree a lot lately, so, meh.
The blast wasn't shown to be dissipating after hitting one being. It was a steady stream of lightning that wrapped completely around what it hit.
Had the others not been there, it looks like it would have been wasted.
Is it going to wrap even more around just one being? No one was in the way to shield one another, they were just there. It'd be like downplaying Superman somehow surviving after taking a nuke because say superior beings like Black Adam and Billy also took the nuke with the same distance apart and no shielding from it.

And then it blew up.

nope ^

Originally posted by Damborgson

There has never been a godblast that looked like that. Some lightning maybe, but it's always been a direct beam of power shot from Mjolnir. Not a spread out lightning blast like that one. It's ballsy to call it a G-blast, and there isn't enough proof to call it one in my opinion.

Had it been one, so be it. But it's fairly clear that it wasn't.

@gk: are you talking about this scan? because the other appears to be pretty much right beside him, and hella bigger which would mean he was the one likely to take more of the blast. not sure where you're seeing the epi-center...

Originally posted by leonidas
really? that's interesting, actually. where did he say that?

That's the first I have heard of, and I keep track of these things. He did attribute the seeming discrepancies between Odin and Galactus' respective performances against the Celestials, to Galactus' 4-planet-food-fest. Somewhat like Hickman.

Originally posted by leonidas
@gk: are you talking about this scan? because the other appears to be pretty much right beside him, and hella bigger which would mean he was the one likely to take more of the blast. not sure where you're seeing the epi-center...

I also mentioned the angle at which the heralds were facing the Abstracts and at which the blast was fired. Based on that it pretty much looks like Galactus took the brunt of it.

Originally posted by leonidas
really? that's interesting, actually. where did he say that?

Formspring.

Edit: Just for context and I am paraphrasing as Formspring doesn't have an archive feature as such. A poster (presumably an Odin fan) was incredulous about the results of the Galactus vs Odin and Celesitials fights and asked how Galactus would do in place of the Celestials in Thor #300. He said reasonably fed, same result. Reasonably fed is up for discussion but I don't think that's the same as extremely fed. Just imo.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
the fact that it's a focused is the point of a god blast. if it is or isn't one is not the point anymore, but saying it doesn't matter if most of the attack missed galactus doesn't meant it would be the same if everything went right at him like the god blasts of decades past.
I agree, it was focused in one big direction, and everything did go at Galactus (and surrounding others).

Like this God Blast:

except this one wasn't amped, nor did it blow up at the end.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
The blast wasn't shown to be dissipating after hitting one being. It was a steady stream of lightning that wrapped completely around what it hit.
Had the others not been there, it looks like it would have been wasted.
Is it going to wrap even more around just one being? No one was in the way to shield one another, they were just there. It'd be like downplaying Superman somehow surviving after taking a nuke because say superior beings like Black Adam and Billy also took the nuke with the same distance apart and no shielding from it.

And then it blew up.

well, if there weren't 3 of them, the attack would have been directed at....just one? 😕 and do you think if it were focused (and i've really never seen a gb WRAP around anyone before) it would be more damaging? ie--all that lightning and power were aimed at JUST one of them it would have been more damaging? if not, then....shrug

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
i don't see any wasted energy at all. galactus is totally enveloped by the totality of the output.

another:

Formspring has been shut down anyways. If people still want to ask Brevoort questions, go to tumblr instead.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
I also mentioned the angle at which the heralds were facing the Abstracts and at which the blast was fired. Based on that it pretty much looks like Galactus took the brunt of it.

honestly, we just....really don't see things the same i guess. to me, it looks like g is engaging the other, and the heralds are about even with the other or maybe behind him. either way, the other appears to tank at least as much to me. i'm also not really convinced the lightning did anything in particular. the explosion after seems to be the thing, but again, that energy was absorbed by all 3. and its not like these were insignificant beings.....to me it's pretty simple--were all the energy directed at a single entity, it would have been more effective. HOW effective? i don't know. enough to drop one of them? certainly not, as that g was clearly pretty strong and he would tank even that blast. but how it can be argued that the blast would have been more effective i simply don't understand....

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Formspring has been shut down anyways. If people still want to ask Brevoort questions, go to tumblr instead.

cool, thanks. have you got a copy of the post or a link or anything? sounds like an interview i'd be interested in reading.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That's the first I have heard of, and I keep track of these things. He did attribute the seeming discrepancies between Odin and Galactus' respective performances against the Celestials, to Galactus' 4-planet-food-fest. Somewhat like Hickman.

well, that obviously makes sense to me, but the other interview sounds like it's saying something different. wish i could read it to see what was actually said.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
That depends on whether you can consider lightning blasts and energy blasts as the same thing due the art under which they were all drawn. For example, the blasts from the 3 Abstracts in the very first panel of the first scan both you and I posted clearly seem like lightning blasts, yet it's rare for an Abstract Beings like these to use "lightning" as a weapon. Another example, Galactus' eye beams were illustratively portrayed as purple lightning, but we don't automatically assume that it means that it was only lightning because it's not specified to be so on-panel.

Ah, but this particular attack was being assisted in by Surfer and Rachel as well, and I am fairly sure that it is not regular for them to throw out lightning barrages randomly like that.

I am 100% sure that it's a Godblast as of now. You actually had me convinced with these points of yours before on youtube....until I met Bran.

You can't, considering one was called energy and the other was shown as lightning. It's true, those didn't look like standard blasts from Galactus, he doesn't go all Sith Lord from what I remember, but it's not really comparable to Thor using lightning. Thor is the lightning. It's his go to power. And Galactus demonstrating some added versatility to his power, is still not comparable to Thor straight up changing the basic nature of godblast to lightning instead of energy. They're completely different attacks. The closest you have to the pseudo godblast before, is the original godblast which came out as more of a wave than a direct beam like it typically is. But it was still raw energy, not lightning. Which is the killer for the godblast theory imo.

They were giving their power to channel through Mjolnir. It's a little ambiguous, but what else would come out of Mjolnir if Thor was planning on using some super lightning? Lightning of course. And it did.

I'm fairly certain it's not. Just to many if's and's or but's to make it a dead certain godblast.